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Тема Re: История на галите. Тини:тска династия!?нови [re: BilGeits]  
Автор BilGeits (Mac)
Публикувано10.10.06 19:05










Тема Re: История на галите. Тини:тска династия!?нови [re: BilGeits]  
Автор Vencci* (R*Я)
Публикувано10.10.06 19:29



Geltae и getae са толкова еднакви като изписване, че не знам накъде повече. Гети=келти е доста интересно и не е задължително да е невярно. Важното е да видим какво знаем за келтите и тогава да отсъдим.

/ мнение на Боян /

Сравненията гети~гелти~келти и готи~гети~хети са близки.



Тема Re: История на галите. Тини:тска династия!?нови [re: Last_Roman]  
Автор Vencci* (R*Я)
Публикувано10.10.06 19:46



Dacia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Roman Dacia

Dacia, in ancient geography the land of the Daci, named by the ancient Greeks Getae, was a large district of Southeastern Europe, bounded on the north by the Carpathians, on the south by the Danube, on the west by the Tisa, on the east by the Tyras or Nistru, now in eastern Moldova. It thus corresponds in the main to modern Romania and Moldova, as well as parts of Hungary, Bulgaria and Ukraine. The capital of Dacia was Sarmizegetusa. The inhabitants of this district are generally considered as belonging to the Thracian stock.

Contents [hide]
1 Name
2 Geography
3 Culture
4 Religion
5 Society
6 Occupations
7 Language
8 Political entities
9 Roman conquest
10 See also
11 References
12 External links



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Name
The Dacians were known as Geton (plural Getae) in Greek writings, and as Dacus (plural Daci) and Getae in Roman documents; also as Dagae and Gaete— see the late Roman map Tabula Peutingeriana. Strabo tells that the original name of the Dacians was "daoi", which could be explained with a possible Phrygian cognate "daos", meaning "wolf". This assumption is enforced by the fact that the Dacian standard, the Dacian Draco had a wolf head.

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Geography

Dacian Kingdom, during the rule of Burebista, 82 BC.Towards the west Dacia may originally have extended as far as the Danube where it runs from north to south at Waitzen (Vacz). Julius Caesar in his De Bello Gallico (book 6) speaks of the Hercynian forest extending along the Danube to the territory of the Dacians. Ptolemy puts the eastern boundary of Dacia Trajana as far back as the Hierasus (Siret river, in modern Romania).

The extent and location of the later geographical entity Dacia varied in its four distinct historical periods (see History, below);

The Dacia of King Burebista- 82-44 BC, stretching from the Southern Bug river in what is today Ukraine to the Danube in what is today Slovakia, and from the Balkan mountains in what is today Bulgaria to Transcarpathia in what is today Ukraine
The Roman province Dacia Trajana, established as a consequence of the Dacian Wars during 101-106, comprising the regions known today as Banat, Oltenia and Transylvania.
The later Roman province Dacia Aureliana, reorganised inside former Moesia Superior after the abandonment of former Dacia to the Goths and Carpi in 271.
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Culture
Based on archaeological findings, the origins of the Dacian culture are believed to be in Moldavia, being identified as an evolution of the Iron Age Basarabi culture.

The Dacians had attained a considerable degree of civilization by the time they first became known to the Romans.

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Religion
Main article: Dacian mythology

Dacian Sanctuary at Sarmisegetuza Regia.According to Herodotus History (book 4) account of the story of Zalmoxis (or Zamolxis), the Getae (speaking the same language as the Dacians - Strabo) believed in the immortality of the soul, and regarded death as merely a change of country. Their chief priest held a prominent position as the representative of the supreme deity, Zalmoxis. The chief priest was also the king's chief adviser. The Goth Jordanes in his Getica (The origin and deeds of the Goths), gives account of Dicineus (Deceneus), the highest priest of Buruista (Burebista).

Besides Zalmoxis, the Dacians believed in other deities such as Gebeleizis.

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Society

Comati
Buridava Residential Pallace Reconstruction.Dacians were divided into two classes: the aristocracy (tarabostes) and the common people (comati).

The aristocracy alone had the right to cover their heads and wore a felt hat (hence pileati, their Latin name).

The second class, who comprised the rank and file of the army, the peasants and artisans, might have been called capillati (in Latin). Their appearance and clothing can be seen on Trajan's Column.

Dacians had developed the Murus dacicus, characteristic to their complexes of fortified cities, like their capital Sarmizegetusa in today Hunedoara (Romania). The degree of their urban development can be seen on Trajan's Column and in the account of how Sarmizegetusa was defeated by the Romans. The Romans identified and destroyed the water pipelines of the Dacian capital, only thus being able to end the long siege of Sarmizegetusa.

Greek and Roman chroniclers record the defeat and capture of Lysimachus in the 3rd century BC by the Getae (Dacians) ruled by Dromihete, their military strategy, and the release of Lysimachus following a debate in the assembly of the Getae.

The cities of the Dacians were known as -dava, -deva, -δαυα ("-dawa" or "-dava", Anc. Gk.), -δεβα ("-deva", Byz. Gk.) or -δαβα ("-dava", Byz. Gk.), etc. . A list of Dacian davas 1 :

1. In Dacia: Acidava, Argedava, Burridava, Dokidava, Carsidava, Clepidava, Cumidava, Marcodava, Netindava, Patridava, Pelendava, *Perburidava, Petrodaua, Piroboridaua, Rhamidaua, Rusidava, Sacidava, Sangidava, Setidava, Singidava, , Tamasidava, Utidava, Zargidava, Ziridava, Sucidava – 26 names altogether.

2. In Lower Moesia (the present Northern Bulgaria) and Scythia minor (Dobrudja): Aedeba, *Buteridava, *Giridava, Dausadava, Kapidaua, Murideba, Sacidava, Scaidava (Skedeba), Sagadava, Sukidaua (Sucidava) – 10 names in total.

3. In Upper Moesia (the districts of Nish, Sofia, and partly Kjustendil): Aiadaba, Bregedaba, Danedebai, Desudaba, Itadeba, Kuimedaba, Zisnudeba – 7 names in total.

Gil-doba, a village in Thracia, of unknown location.

Thermi-daua, a town in Dalmatia. Probably a Grecized form of *Germidava.

Pulpu-deva, (Phillipopolis) today Plovdiv in Bulgaria.

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Occupations

Dacian gold coins of Koson type, 1st century BC.The chief occupations of Dacians were agriculture, apiculture, viticulture, livestock, ceramics and metal working. The Roman Province Dacia is represented on Roman Sestertius (coin) as a woman seated on a rock, holding aquila, a small child on her knee holding ears of grain, and a small child seated before her holding grapes.

They also worked the gold and silver mines of Transylvania. They carried on a considerable outside trade, as is shown by the number of foreign coins found in the country. See also: Decebalus Treasure

Commercial relations were fluorishing for centuries, first with the Greeks, then with Romans, as we can find even today an impressive collection of gold currency used in various periods of the dacian history.

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Language

Dacian objects.Main article: Dacian language
Dacians spoke an Indo-European language, but its characteristics are still disputed, due to insufficient archaeological evidence. Some Greek sources quote some place names, words and even a list of about fifty plants written in Greek and Roman sources (see List of Dacian plant names), but this is still not enough to classify it, although many scholars assume it was part of the Satem branch.

Modern Romanian language has a substratum of several hundreds words from an ancient Balkan language, often identified with the language of the Dacians. Some of these words have cognates in Albanian language, which may have evolved from another Dacian dialect.

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Political entities

Classical Dacia and environs, from Alexander G. Findlay's Classical Atlas to Illustrate Ancient Geography, New York, 1849.At the beginning of the 2nd century BC, under the rule of Rubobostes, a Dacian king in nowadays Transylvania, the Dacians' power in the Carpathian basin increased by defeating the Celts who previously held the power in the region.

A kingdom of Dacia was in existence at least as early as the first half of the 2nd century BC under king, Oroles. Conflicts with the Bastarnae and the Romans (112 BC-109 BC, 74 BC), against whom they had assisted the Scordisci and Dardani, greatly weakened the resources of the Dacians.

Under Burebista (Boerebista), a contemporary of Julius Caesar, who thoroughly reorganized the army and raised the moral standard of the people, the limits of the kingdom were extended to their maximum. The Bastarnae and Boii were conquered, and even the Greek towns of Olbia and Apollonia on the Black Sea (Pontus Euxinus) recognised Burebista's authority.

Indeed the Dacians appeared so formidable that Caesar contemplated an expedition against them; something his death prevented. About the same time, Burebista was murdered, and the kingdom was divided into four (or five) parts under separate rulers. One of these was Cotiso, whose daughter Augustus is said to have desired to marry and to whom Augustus betrothed his own five-year-old daughter Julia. He is well known from the line in Horace (Occidit Daci Cotisonis agmen, Odes, III. 8. 18).

The Dacians are often mentioned under Augustus, according to whom they were compelled to recognize Roman supremacy. However they were by no means subdued, and in later times seized every opportunity of crossing the frozen Danube during the winter and ravaging the Roman cities in the province of Moesia.

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Roman conquest

Roman roads along the Danube.Main article: Dacian Wars
From 85 to 89 AD, the Dacians were engaged in two wars with the Romans, under Duras or Diurpaneus, and the great Decebalus.

In 87, the Roman troops under Cornelius Fuscus were defeated, and Cornelius Fuscus was killed by the Dacians under the authority of their ruler, Diurpaneus. After this victory, Diurpaneus took the name of Decebalus. The next year, 88 AD, new Roman troops under Tettius Iullianus, gained a signal advantage, but were obliged to make peace owing to the defeat of Domitian by the Marcomanni, so the Dacians were really left independent. More than this, Decebalus received the statute of "king client to Rome", receiving from Rome military instructors, craftsmen and even money.

To put an end to this disgraceful arrangement, or perhaps to restore the finances of the Roman Empire by capturing the famous Treasure of Decebalus, Trajan resolved to conquer Dacia, thus gaining control over the Dacian goldmines of Transylvania. The result of his first campaign (101-102) was the siege of the Dacian capital Sarmizegethusa and the occupation of a part of the country. The second campaign (105-106) ended with the suicide of Decebalus, and the conquest of the territory that was to form the Roman province Dacia Traiana. The history of the war is given by Dio Cassius, but the best commentary upon it is the famous Column of Trajan in Rome.

The Romans conquered only a portion of Dacia. Most of the Romanian historians and linguists believe that many of the Dacians became Romanised. See also: Origin of Romanians

After Aurelian's withdrawal the last hope to revive Dacia was Regalianus. About his origin, the Tyranni Triginta says he was a Dacian, a kinsman of Decebalus.



Тема Re: Даки = Гети ?!?нови [re: Last_Roman]  
Автор Vencci* (R*Я)
Публикувано10.10.06 19:49



Даки=Гети :

Dacia, in ancient geography the land of the Daci, named by the ancient Greeks Getae, was a large district of Southeastern Europe, bounded on the north by the Carpathians, on the south by the Danube, on the west by the Tisa, on the east by the Tyras or Nistru, now in eastern Moldova.



Тема Re: Даки = Гети ?!?нови [re: Vencci*]  
Автор Vencci* (R*Я)
Публикувано10.10.06 20:31




Карти на Галите :







-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.

Редактирано от Vencci* на 10.10.06 21:16.



Тема Re: История на галите. Тини:тска династия!?нови [re: Vencci*]  
Автор Last_Roman (PRAEFECTUS URBI)
Публикувано11.10.06 20:20



Briezh - бриги?
на мен Cymru ми изглежда по странно и създава "предпоставки за размисъл", както беше лафът тук едно време...



Vae victis


Тема Re: История на галите. Тини:тска династия!?нови [re: Last_Roman]  
Автор Vencci* (R*Я)
Публикувано11.10.06 21:19



Беше ......



ІІЖІІЖІІЖІІЖІІЖІІЖІІЖІІЖІІЖІІ

Не мислиш ли, че фонетично Зет+Хаш е нашето Ж ???

БРИЕЗ ~ БРИЕЖ~БРЕА~БРЯГ/БРЕГ~крайБРЕЖен и др.

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.

Фризи, Бризи, Брити или "брегови", "крайбрежни" или др.

Привет !!!



Тема Re: История на галите. Тини:тска династия!?нови [re: Last_Roman]  
Автор Vencci* (R*Я)
Публикувано11.10.06 21:24



Cymru

ІЖІЖІЖІЖІЖІЖ

Напълно съм съгласен за Cymru.

Има и може да се проучи и разработи този проблем.
При по-свободно време ще се заема към този въпрос.

Привет !!!



Тема Re: История на галите. Тини:тска династия!?нови [re: Vencci*]  
Автор BilGeits (Mac)
Публикувано16.10.06 17:09







Тема Re: История на галите. Тини:тска династия!?нови [re: BilGeits]  
Автор BilGeits (Mac)
Публикувано16.10.06 17:09








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