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Тема Re: AM I -- Innocent ! [re: vidiya]
Автор vidiya (член)
Публикувано24.06.11 09:00  




AM I -- Innocent !
____________________________


~ OshO ~

Innocence is there, you have simply forgotten it -- you have been made to forget it. Society is cunning. For centuries man has learned that you can survive in this society only if you are cunning; the more cunning you are, the more successful you will be. That's the whole game of politics: be cunning, be more cunning than others. It is a constant struggle and competition as to who can be more cunning. Whosoever is more cunning is going to succeed, is going to be powerful.

After centuries of cunningness man has learned one thing: that to remain innocent is dangerous, you will not be able to survive. Hence parents try to drive their children out of their innocence. Teachers, schools, colleges, universities exist for the simple work of making you more cunning, more clever. Although they call it intelligence it is not intelligence.

Intelligence is not against innocence, remember. Intelligence is the flavor of innocence, intelligence is the fragrance of innocence. Cunningness is against innocence; and cunningness, cleverness are not synonymous with intelligence. But to be intelligent needs a tremendous journey inwards. No schools can help, no colleges, no universities can help. Parents, priests, the society, they are all extrovert; they cannot help you to go inwards. And buddhas are very rare, few and far between. Not everybody is fortunate enough to find a buddha. Only a buddha can help you to be an intelligent person, but you cannot find so many buddhas who want to become primary school teachers and high school teachers and university professors; it is impossible.

The society prepares you to be cunning so that you are capable of competing in this struggle for existence, the struggle to survive. It is a cut-throat competition, everybody is after everybody else's throat. People are ready to do anything to succeed, to be famous, to climb the ladder of success, name and fame. They are ready to use you as stepping-stones. Unless you are also cunning you will be simply used, manipulated. Hence the society trains every child to be cunning, and these layers of cunningness are hiding your innocence.

Innocence has not to be achieved, it is already there. Hence it is not a question of becoming, it is your being. It has only to be discovered -- or rediscovered. You have to drop all that you have learned from others, and you will immediately be innocent. Hence my antagonism towards all knowledge that is borrowed. Don't quote the Bible, don't quote the Gita. Don't behave like parrots. Don't just go on living on borrowed information. Start seeking and searching for your own intelligence.

A negative process is needed; it is to be achieved through VIA NEGATIVA. That is the Buddha's way. You have to negate all that has been given to you. You have to say, "This is not mine; hence I have no claim over it. It may be true, it may not be true. Who knows? Others say it is so; unless it becomes my experience I cannot agree or disagree. I will not believe or disbelieve. I will not be a Catholic or a communist, I will not be a Hindu or a Mohammedan. I will simply not follow any ideology." Because, whoever you follow, you will be gathering dust around yourself. Stop following.

Here, being with me, you are not my followers, remember it. Friends certainly, but not followers. You are in a love affair with me, but it is not a question of following. And my work here is not to teach you something, but to help you to discover yourself. Just drop all knowledge. It hurts because you have carried that knowledge for so long and you have been bragging so much about that knowledge -- your degrees, M.A.s and Ph.D.s and D.Litt.s, and you have been bragging about all those degrees. And suddenly I am saying to you: Drop all that nonsense.

Just be as simple as a child. Just be again a child as you were born, as God sent you into this world. In that mirrorlike state you will be able to reflect that which is. Innocence is the door to knowing. Knowledge is the barrier and innocence is the bridge.


________love n light_
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* Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   20.01.11 00:03
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   20.01.11 00:10
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. * Re: Странната аритметика на любовта vidiya   20.01.11 17:23
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! totori   20.01.11 19:26
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! L.L.   24.01.11 22:41
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! totori   24.01.11 22:50
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! L.L.   24.01.11 23:26
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! totori   24.01.11 23:52
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.01.11 03:12
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.01.11 02:21
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! totori   25.01.11 18:03
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.01.11 18:08
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! totori   25.01.11 18:23
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! Mиpo   21.01.11 14:34
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   02.02.11 15:58
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   21.01.11 16:20
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   21.01.11 17:36
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! Beдpocт   22.01.11 00:12
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   22.01.11 15:10
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! lYl 13   22.01.11 15:09
. * Нищо и Нещо Mиpo   23.01.11 19:51
. * Re: Нищо и Нещо lYl 13   24.01.11 11:03
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! vidiya   24.01.11 18:13
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! lYl 13   24.01.11 18:41
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! vidiya   24.01.11 21:39
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! lYl 13   24.01.11 23:50
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! vidiya   25.01.11 01:26
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! totori   24.01.11 22:26
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! Beдpocт   24.01.11 23:05
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! totori   24.01.11 23:17
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! Beдpocт   24.01.11 23:52
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! vidiya   25.01.11 02:39
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! Beдpocт   25.01.11 21:27
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! lYl 13   24.01.11 23:54
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! totori   24.01.11 23:59
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! vidiya   25.01.11 02:17
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! vidiya   25.01.11 01:30
. * Re:Благодаря, lYl 13!!! totori   25.01.11 18:18
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. * Re: Нищо и Нещо vidiya   25.01.11 14:41
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. * Re: Благодаря Мирко,Тотори,ЛЛ,Ведрост,Иви 13 и.. ! L.L.   26.01.11 20:19
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. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! Prem   01.02.11 20:10
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. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   02.02.11 14:49
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. * Re: Osho-Love vidiya   23.03.11 14:29
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. * Re: OSHO-THE DISTURBER OF MY SLEEP totori   20.03.11 16:23
. * Re: OSHO-THE DISTURBER OF MY SLEEP vidiya   20.03.11 17:03
. * Re: OSHO-THE DISTURBER OF MY SLEEP totori   20.03.11 17:15
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. * Re: OSHO-THE DISTURBER OF MY SLEEP totori   20.03.11 16:25
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. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   06.05.11 13:53
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   06.05.11 15:16
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. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.05.11 16:39
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.05.11 16:46
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.05.11 16:50
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.05.11 16:55
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.05.11 16:59
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.05.11 17:04
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.05.11 17:27
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   25.05.11 17:36
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   31.05.11 18:50
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   02.06.11 07:52
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   02.06.11 07:57
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   03.06.11 18:02
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   10.06.11 06:29
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   10.06.11 07:51
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   11.06.11 11:18
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   13.06.11 19:17
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   15.06.11 19:34
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   15.06.11 19:41
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   15.06.11 19:54
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   15.06.11 20:09
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   15.06.11 20:16
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   15.06.11 20:53
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   15.06.11 21:06
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   20.06.11 18:23
. * Re: Благодаря ти, vidiya! Mиpo1   20.06.11 14:09
. * Re: Благодаря ти, vidiya! vidiya   20.06.11 18:17
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   20.06.11 18:26
. * Re: AM I -- Innocent ! vidiya   24.06.11 09:00
. * Re: I don't know why I am here ! vidiya   24.06.11 09:05
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   24.06.11 09:10
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. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   16.06.12 22:26
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. * Re: Безразличието... vidiya   20.06.12 22:31
. * Re: Безразличието... Exaybachay   21.06.12 01:51
. * Можело и още... Mиpo1   06.09.12 23:26
. * Re: Можело и още... vidiya   07.09.12 09:58
. * Re: Можело и още... Mиpo1   07.09.12 23:45
. * Re: Можело и още... vidiya   08.09.12 09:05
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. * Възкръсването на Ошо Mиpo1   19.01.12 18:00
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! ludiq_poet   16.06.12 23:15
. * Re: Благодаря ти,Ошо! vidiya   17.06.12 14:38
. * Обичам те! vidiya   17.06.12 18:48
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