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Тема Готи основават Рим, Троя и Америка
Автор »№*ы{ђ}lЏ3©®™ (Тортурач)
Публикувано28.02.06 12:09  



Някои хора, женени за германки, цитират пътешественици от края на 16-ти век за да докажат германския произход на готите. Твърденията им звучат някак си необосновано, затова бих желал да им помогна.
Тук искам да ви запозная с труда "Zamolxis - Primus Getarum Legislator" на големия шведски (готски) учен Carolus Lundius, който е издаден през 1687 в Упсала (упс, на същото място място се съхранява Codex argenteus от 1669 г.)

Разисквайки произхода на своите предци, високообразованият учен достига до следните аргументирани изводи - шведи, готи, гети и скити е едно и също. Цитирам част от неговите твърдения:
Those who have been called Scythians, thereafter called Sueons (Sueones). Where does the name of Scythians come from? For they come from the Elysium Fields, hence their name.

It should be clear for everybody, those which the Antiquity called with chosen veneration Getae, the writers have called thereafter, by unanimous consent, Goths. In that respect there were a great deal of writers, the most different ones. and I didn't count them all. Goths (the Getae) exceeded, in glory and exploits, every peoples and nations, until today; the most, recounting the wars and battles carried by the Goths (and Getae), remain astonished and full of admiration with them. Never have been written so many literary and historical works, never have been promulgated so many civil and sacred laws – they are unparalleled in the world!

§1. It can be precisely proved with nine solid arguments the terrible weapons of the Goths/ Getae would have wandered all over the earth, set out of Scandinavia. §2. About that truth none of the ancient writers ever doubt; that thesis is supported too by several colonies spread all over the world. §3. According to Jordanes’ confession, if it will be approved of by everyone, it would be an extra argumentation. §4. According to Procopius, it isn’t in question as much the Goths, as especially the Langobards and Vandals. §5. That fits, his name, very popular, being Langobard by origin, Paulus The Langobard Warnefridi. To that it is also to be added the authority of a DEXIPPUS, ABLAVIUS, EUNAPIUS, AMMIANUS, DIO, ZOSIMUS, ZONARA and of many others. §6. The old history of the Fatherland comes to an agreement with the ancient annals; it is just the same with the oldest Greek writers. §7. Those come to join the Spanish, too. §8 As for the Italics, a debate would prove useless. Why should it take place, so long as the Scythians are the founders of Italy, too? That truth is confirmed by a series of very old words, since countless of them are of Scyhtian origin, as we can tell it very well. §9 The Gauls or Francs themselves have come from our Scandia and why not the Trojans, too. What else it would be meant by TROY if not LAZIUS §10. The land of Amazonia, KUENLAND in Scandinavia. In SMALANDIA’s VERENDIA even these days the honour remained as a permanence of ancient valour and body strength. §11. The Britons originate from the Saxons, Angles and Getae. §12 Yet either the Scots don’t know they are descending from the same stock. There arose firstly the nobility of the whole Europe from, a truth confirmed by Carolus Quintus. §13. Even the Germans were born in Scandinavia. §14. The Helvets likewise. §15. Not less the DANS and neighbouring peoples. §16. And what is believed about the Moscow inhabitants, who draw on the source of old Gothic language §17. The Cyprian words tally perfectly with our ancient lexical rules.

По-надолу Lundius доказва, че ако не цялото , то поне най-цивилизованата част от предколумбовото американско население е от шведско-готски произход:
§20. Here it is picture of the Sueons’ and Goths’ movement in Dania, Germany, Britain, Scottland, Gaul, Italy, Hispania, Lusitania, Catalonia, Thrace, Greece, Phrygia, Taurical Chersonesus, Russia and in other regions, they being spread almost all over the Globe. Whether America, as it is called now, was unknown and inaccessible to the Sueons and Scythians? I confess there are different opinions of different fellows, on the time when that huge part of the Globe began being occupied and inhabited: when the natives arrived there or from what part of the world they arrived there, that is of the recent discovered inhabitants of the Earth (out of which seven are however deemed to be more important). Since the first opinion belongs to those deeming America only began to be inhabited after Noah’s Flood, the scattering of the peoples and confusion of languages, it laying at the base of a fact: infinite crowds and kinds of inhabitants disseminated in America - hence a diversity of idioms, from its aborigines, or from the Europeans, or from other ethnical groups, and also with very important differences between them; a second opinion says the Americans have their origins in Noah’s son, Chamus and as an offspring of those being driven away from their dwellings, JOSUA DUX placed in front of those banished, led them through a lot of roaming and wandering, to these new “American” lands, such lands becoming their new dwelling places. A third is ascribed to the Israelites, out of which ten tribes have been firstly led to Assyria and from there thrown into many dwellings and scattered in different places of the Earth, and finally they would seize America. A forth claims the Americans being Tartars, because Asia, which stretches towards north, its terminal district would be America. A fifth claims the Americans draw from the Phoenicians, the reasons of which draw their sap from, among others, the Mexicans’ habits that have been taken from the Phoenicians, whose language, and other things, resemble those of the Americans. A sixth claims the Americans, inhabiting predilectly the Panama Isthmus - as neighbours of the Panamanians - arrived there from Norway via Iceland and Greenland. The inhabitants of Yucatan, however their neighbours, originate in Ethiopia. The Peruans themselves, as they are called today, draw their name from the Sinens of the southern districts and from other peoples living in the same districts, up to the Strait of Magellan. In fact, after the Deluge, and maybe just as a result thereof, by land, by sea, through unforeseen circumstances, by laws, in America have penetrated animals and people, in different periods of time, those ethnical groups that have been banished by such nations where they originated in. Here it should be retained the opinion that we have established the first American area having ever been cultivated was the northern part and only after that, and, from there, the migration extended towards the southern area; therefore, from the west arrived the Phoenicians, from north the Scythians, from the east the Chinese; according to Johan. Ler. (Hist. Navig. in Brasil, chap.XVI), Gom. (Hist. Ind., lib. V, chap.15; lib. VI. chap.5), Brul. (Histor. Peruan., lib. I, chap.1), Acost. (De Nat. N. O., lib. I, chap.25), Freder. (Lum. de B. ext., I, II, chap.8), Grot. (Diss. de orig. Gent. Am.), Joh. de Laet. (in the notes of the same dissertation), Marc. Lescarb. (Hist. Nov. Fr., lib. I, chap.3), Horn. (De orig. Gent. Amer.), and Joh. Hornbeck (De Convers. Ind., lib. I, chap.9) - in which it is demonstrated the agreement of their opinion with the Hornian one.

По-надолу авторът разглежда някои съществени приноси на готите като даването на азбука на гърци и други:
The Greeks and other peoples took the letters (the alphabet) from the Getae. In Herodotus and Diodorus we may find direct opinions on the spread of such letters

Тези и още много други сериозни постижения на скандинавската мисъл - .



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* Готи основават Рим, Троя и Америка »№*ы{ђ}lЏ3©®™   28.02.06 12:09
. * Re: Готи основават Рим, Троя и Америка Craig   28.02.06 12:29
. * Re: Готи основават Рим, Троя и Америка »№*ы{ђ}lЏ3©®™   28.02.06 12:31
. * Re: Готи основават Рим, Троя и Америка тpиrлaвa лaмя   28.02.06 12:34
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. * Re: Да ти обясня за немците »№*ы{ђ}lЏ3©®™   28.02.06 19:08
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. * Re: Да ти обясня за немците »№*ы{ђ}lЏ3©®™   28.02.06 19:58
. * Re: Готи основават Рим, Троя и Америка Last roman   01.03.06 01:09
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