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Клубове Дирене Регистрация Кой е тук Въпроси Списък Купувам / Продавам 22:14 13.05.24 
Клубове / Наука / Хуманитарни науки / История Всички теми Следваща тема Пълен преглед*
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АвторBacил (Нерегистриран) 
Публикувано27.11.03 17:29  



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>From: Christopher Webber <webberc@wahs.nsw.gov.au>
>Reply-To: thracia@topica.com
>To: thracia@topica.com
>Subject: rhomphaia sold on Ebay
>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:47:48 +0000
>
>Hi, a rhomphaia in very good condition was recently sold to a Chicago
>collector on EBay (the photo is still there). As this is a very rare
>item, it is a tragedy that its provenance will not be known. However,
>the new owner is willing to get a metallurgical analysis done on it, if
>it doesn't have to leave the USA. Can anybody help me find somebody who
>would do the analysis, or pay for this process?
>
>Metallurgical and physical tests could determine the following:
>
>1. Carbon content. Were these swords high or low carbon steel
> or were they more iron with traces of carbon from forging.
> This would indicate whether or not the Thracians were as
> technically adept as the LaTene peoples of the North or the
> Greeks to the South and west.
>
>2. C14 dating would put a date within +/- 60 years. This could
> verify your 4-1 Centuries BC or cause you to completely
> reevaluate your dating system. What if the dating shows that
> these swords are contemporary with Hallstatt and Early
> Classical or even Archaic Greece?
>
>3. Trace element analysis for other metals might give you hints
> as to where the iron ores were mined or, more remarkably,
> indicate that the Thracian Bessi swordsmiths used mangan-
> ese, cobalt, silver or gold in their alloy. I was surprised to
> learn recently that a metallurgical analysis of a Naue II
> bronze sword showed that it contained a more than random
> or accidental amount of gold in the alloy.
>
>4. This sword may be in good enough condition that an
> electron microscopic analysis might show the hammering
> pattern used in the forging process and how keen an edge
> it could maintain as well as the tempering.
>
>5. A series of x-rays could determine if the blade was cast or
> hammer welded folding to construct the blade. A hammer
> hardened casting would have entirely different properties
> from a blade that was constructed from several small billets
> of metal that were repeatedly reheated in charcoal, folded,
> hammer welded, folded, hammer welded, etc., in many steps.
> Such blades would be much more flexible, retain a razor
> sharp edge, be resistant to impact shattering and be at a
> decisive advantage between equally skilled swordsmen
> when the opponent is using an inferior blade.
>
>6. Microscopic analysis might show organic traces of a
> scabbard or cloth fossilized into the surface rust. Debris
> on the surface might give some idea as to the burial site if
> the material found could be compared to soil samples from
> the Bessi area of Thrace.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chris



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