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Тема а ето всъщност кво си мислят американците за филма [re: RlCHARD LONG]
Автор RlCHARD LONG (Space Cowboy)
Публикувано04.06.05 05:16  



Сега, понеже тук някои са се захласнали по касовия успех на филма, ето какво мислят хора които също са ходили да го гледат, като милиони други балъци благодарение на рекламата и гъзоблизната критика... И мнозина мислят като тях, затова който знае английски да чете:


come on! i was furious after leaving the theater! I paid to be tortured by this trash!

Okay, so we all knew he was going to be Darth Vader, right? no surprises in the plot right? okay, i was hoping that was the worst thing to overcome, a boring, predictable storyline. I didn't expect it to play out like a friggin soap opera!

Darth Vader: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
(as he shakes his fists in the most horribly cliche and comical way)

How could i enjoy THAT? Even Ewan McGreggor dissapointed me, and he was amazing in the second episode! But Hayden Christiansen never fails to dissapoint, he goes into cheeze factor overdrive. This is mainly to blame on the part of Lucas, who just massacred this mess. He should have actually tried to make this more than a pretty picture. It's actually a pretty picture being dunked in a pile of crap.

The only good scene was the Palpatine / Yoda fight. And the visuals were amazing as always. But nothing else.

I am in pain.

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"... Now we come to Revenge of the Sith, and I have to say it left me not feeling much of anything the entire way through. Anakin's acting was better this time around (it had nowhere else to go but up, I guess), and the whole way Emperor Palpatine manuevers things to lead Anakin to the dark side was very well done and made sense. There was lots of action, and the special effects were good. Yoda kicks more ass, you get to see Chewbacca, General Grievous (dumb name) was pretty sweet too. The bad: the love stuff between Anakin and Padme. The dialog was probably some of the most cliched stuff I have ever heard. Also, the scene where Vader is told that "he killed" Padme, was totally corny...Vader looked like Frankenstein's monster breaking loose from the restraints and the whole anguished, "No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!!!!!" was stupid to the point of almost making me laugh out loud.
Overall, I just never really got "into" the movie. I never really felt anything for the characters, I was just waiting to see how it all ended I guess, and now that it has, I don't have a burning desire to see it again. The first two new movies really contained pretty much none of the promised backstory from the original movies, it was all crammed into this one, and I think the movie suffered somewhat for it. The movie was like a machine cramming 100 tons of story into a 50 ton container at 100 miles an hour, and you never really had time to stop and smell the roses, and before you know it, it was over. It didn't suck, but I sure won't be raving about it to my co-workers at work tomorrow (as I did Sin City and Kung-Fu Hustle recently...do yourself a favor and check them out if you haven't), and I doubt I will bother to pick it up on DVD when it comes out. Heck, compare this to another modern trilogy, The Lord of the Rings, and episodes I-III don't even come close in my opinion. The story was better, the acting was leagues better, and the special effects were even more special (props to my new favorite FX studio, WETA). Many parts of those movies moved me to near tears and I felt the characters' emotions much more than in the new Star Wars films.
So now it is finally over, and I guess it doesn't end with a wimper or a bang....just a resigned sigh."

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"I came out of the theater feeling like George Lucas had pulled it off...but just barely. The dialogue is downright silly, the acting often wooden and the computerized action--overkill as usual. This movie's saving grace is it's jedi vs. sith battles. Finally we get to see the full fury of both sides as they pull out all the stops in a battle of lightsabers and the force. This makes up for the weaknesses already mentioned, along with such distractions as R2D2 trying to be cute (lame), the recycling of Chewbacca (lamer), and Padme's dying on cue (lamest). When I get this on DVD I'll just skip to the lightsaber battles and forget the rest. C+/B-"

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Please, someone tell me that Episode III is a joke. From the opening scroll (War!...There are heroes on both sides...) to the final shot, the movie never stopped dissappointing.

I will try to address some of the most outstanding problems. (some minor spoilage below - read with caution)

1. Poor Dialogue
Lines like "Love can't save you, but my new Jedi Powers can!" and "It's time for me to use my ejector pod!" just kill me. I know I didn't copy them right on, but you get the gist of things.

2. Way Too Much CGI
Everything looked fake. Not even a cool kind of fake. Just fake. Sure the graphics were amazing, and people put a lot of effort in them but they didn't make the movie any better...they made it worse.

3. Lightsaber Battles
Remember when lightsaber battles were realistic, high tension battle sequences?

4. Short Scenes
I wonder how many scenes in this film were actually longer than thirty seconds. George Lucas was really trying to cater to the ADD crowd, this film moved way too fast to be enjoyable.

5. Anakin's Turn to the Dark Side
Way to easy. I won't even bother going into details.

6. Hardly a Plot
There is hardly any plot at all. Just some meaningless battle scenes intermingled with horrible dialogue between Anakin and Palpatine or Anakin and Padme.

My hat goes off to old George Lucas for a poor rip off of Othello (remember what he does to Padme at the end :-).

Paplatine = Iago
Anakin = Othello
Kenobi = Cassio
Padme = Desdemona

Think about it! The similarities are amazing!

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Why? Simply because there were no EMOTIONS involved. We all know Anakin's destiny - but missing was the crucial turning point element.
Here we have Anakin at one point willing to slay Palpatine - being a Sith Lord, then a few scenes later Anakin is calling him master.Anakin then proceeds to butcher the "younglings" at the Jedi academy.Huh????
Did we feel anything for Anakin??? Nothing at all. He was not even a tortured soul - the decision to embrace the dark side seemed like a decision to buy a new brand of condom's. This was NOT a tragedy!!!! George Lucas RUINED the entire series with this movie. Everything was so dead with the execption of the Emperor - he was cold and pure evil!!!
And there was no reason for Anakin to wear the "Black Life Support Suit" - Darth Vader's trademark suit. Here is a universe where technology is able to replace severed limbs and all. All Anakin was missing were his limbs - not to mentioned he was badly burned. Thats it. Could not his skin/flesh be healed (burn scars??.
Mechanical limbs. Thats it. NO NEED for the suit. His lungs were fine when he was groaning on the table. Hell, the put him in the suit while his skin/flesh was still smoking!!! I think that hospitals in the nether regions of planet Earth could even treat burns better.
There was not enought justification/motivation for Anakin to turn to the Dark Side. The Black Suit was unnecessary. The Death Star was already being built - when did Palpatine start building it?? And the late 1970's look for the Imperial Destroyers and the stupid military garb???
Has George Lucas gone mad??? It would take at least 20 years before the events in Episode IV unfold. The Death Star was to be a major secret in Episode IV. But here we have the Death Star being built - basically floating in space just waiting for Luke Skywalker to blow it up. 20 years go by before a "secret" is uncovered????
Question: When Anakin rested 2 lightsabers on Count Dooku's neck/shoulders, why did it not burn through him????
The Jedi's died too easily - at least some of them.

What Lucas should have done was made Anakin first fight with Mace Windu as Anakin needed to keep Palpatine alive for the sake of Padme. Then after Mace Windu's death, Anakin gets into a row with the Jedi Council - Anakin is considered a renegade. The Jedi's turn to capture Anakin but in the process Padme is hurt(dies?? but the babies are safe - Anakin does not know. Obiwan responsible???). So now we have a major vendetta. Anakin slaughters the Jedi (including the "younglings"). Turns to the dark side as he hates everything - nothing to live for. Climatic duel with Obiwan where Anakin is seriously hurt -but somehow still alive. Anakin is reassembled piece by piece - brain/head/vital organs encased in a mechanical form - hence the suit.
Question: At the end, why did Anakin not ask if the baby/babies survived???
ROTTEN MOVIE!!!!

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How do you end a saga? George Lucas probably wasn't ready to culminate his grand opus. Anybody could have written the script (or the lack therof). The dialogue was bordering to clichй, and often times corny. There were too much fight scenes and special effects, it was almost nauseating or rather, you will no longer get excited with the succeeding fight scenes since you've already got your fill in the first 5 minutes of the movie and you have been immunized. Count Dooku died in the first 10 minutes, and Mace Windu died in the next 20... and their death scenes weren't even satisfying. Yoda became the comic relief. The scenes between Padme and Anakin were ludicrously written, it lacked the needed pathos. The revealing of Darth Sidius was also pathetic. The transformation of Anakin to the dark side was wanting and a dud. I was anticipating a twist like in episode 2 where Senator Palpatine manipulated Jar Jar Binx to motion the senate to give him emergency powers, but none came. I couldn't find any saving grace in this movie other than, at last, an era has ended.

Редактирано от RlCHARD LONG на 04.06.05 05:17.



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