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Тема Темите на »№*ы{}lЏ3©®™нови  
Автор St.LuciferМодератор (Fallen_Angel)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:10



»№*ы{}lЏ3©®™, защо в три отделни теми??? На всички поотделно ли да кажа??

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Тема Захари Риторнови [re: St.Lucifer]  
Автор St.LuciferМодератор (Fallen_Angel)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:11



Пълен текст, за който не го е чел

<url="http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/zachariah12.htm">Zachariah of Mitylene, Syriac Chronicle (1899). Book 12.</url>

The country of Bazgun,29 with a language of its own, which adjoins and extends to the Caspian Gates and sea, the Gates in the land of the Huns. And beyond the Gates are the Bulgarians with their own language, a heathen and barbarous people, and they have cities



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Тема Cosmas Indicopleustes, първата половина на 6ти векнови [re: St.Lucifer]  
Автор St.LuciferМодератор (Fallen_Angel)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:12







there are everywhere churches of the Christians, and bishops, martyrs, monks and recluses, where the Gospel of Christ is proclaimed. So likewise again in Cilicia, Asia, Cappadocia, Lazica and Pontus, and in the northern countries occupied by the Scythians, Hyrcanians, Heruli, Bulgarians, Greeks and Illyrians, Dalmatians, Goths, Spaniards, Romans, Franks, and other nations, as far as Gadeira on the ocean towards the northern parts, there are believers and preachers of the Gospel confessing the resurrection from the dead; and so we see the prophecies being fulfilled over the whole world.



Българите са изброени редом до гърците, илирите, далматинците и готите.



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Тема Gregory the Great (българи гастарбайтери в Италия)нови [re: St.Lucifer]  
Автор St.LuciferМодератор (Fallen_Angel)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:13







For you were well acquainted with Ammonius, a monk of my Monastery, who whiles he lived in a secular weed and was married to the daughter of Valerianus, a lawyer in this city, continually and with all diligence he followed his business: by reason whereof he knew whatsoever was done in his father-in-law's house. This man told me, how, in that great mortality which happened in this city, in the time of that noble man Narses,36 there was a boy in the house of the foresaid Valerianus, called Armentarius, who was very simple and passing humble: when, |209 therefore, that mortal disease entered that lawyer's house, the foresaid boy fell sick thereof, and was brought to the point of death: who suddenly falling into a trance, and afterward coming to himself again, caused his master to be sent for, to whom he told that he had been in heaven, and did know who they were that should die out of his house. "Such and such," quoth he, "shall die, but as for yourself, fear nothing, for at this time die you shall not. And that you may be assured that I have verily been in heaven, behold I have there received the gift to speak with all tongues: you know well enough that ignorant I am of the Greek tongue, and yet will I speak Greek, that you may see whether it be true that I say or no." Then his master spake Greek, and he so answered him in that tongue, that all which were present did much marvel. In the same house there was a Bulgar, servant to the foresaid Narsus, who in all haste, being brought to the sick person, spake unto him in the Bulgarian tongue; and the boy that was born and brought up in Italy, answered him so in that barbarous language, as though he had been born and bred in that country. All that heard him thus talking wondered much, and by experience of two tongues which they knew very well that before he knew not, they made no doubt of the rest, though they could make no trial thereof. After this he lived two days, and upon the third, by what secret judgment of God none can tell, he tare and rent with his teeth his own hands and arms, and so departed this life. When he was dead, all those whom before he mentioned did quickly follow after; and besides them, none in that house died at that time.

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Тема THE CHRONICLE OF JOHN, BISHOP OF NIKIUнови [re: St.Lucifer]  
Автор St.LuciferМодератор (Fallen_Angel)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:15







72. And Vitalian, whom we have just mentioned, raised a revolt against the emperor Anastasius, and seized Thrace and Scythia 206 and Mysia, and mustered a numerous army. 73. And the emperor sent against him a general named Hypatius. And when they fought together, he was vanquished by Vitalian and taken prisoner. And on the payment of a large ransom he was set free. 74. But immediately on his return to the emperor, the latter removed him from his command, and appointed in his room another general, named Cyril, of the province of Illyria. 75. And he also gave battle to Vitalian, and there was great slaughter on both sides. Cyril the general retired into the city named Odyssus, and stayed there while Vitalian withdrew into the province of Bulgaria. 76. And he gave large sums of money to the guards who kept the gates of Odyssus, and then, marching by night, he put Cyril the general to death and captured the city. 77. And he attacked also the province of Thrace, and plundered all its wealth, and likewise the cities of Europe, and Sycae, and the region over against Constantinople and Sosthenium, and he established himself in the church of the holy Archangel Michael, devising by what means he could make himself master of the empire of Byzantium.





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Тема Re: THE CHRONICLE OF JOHN, BISHOP OF NIKIUнови [re: St.Lucifer]  
Автор St.LuciferМодератор (Fallen_Angel)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:15



По-надолу говори и за Кубрат:

47. And when the inhabitants of Byzantium heard this news, they said: 'This project is concerned with Kubratos, chief of the Huns, the nephew of Organa, who was baptized in the city of Constantinople, and received into the Christian community in his childhood and had grown up in the imperial palace.' 48, And between him and the elder Heraclius great affection and peace had prevailed, and after Heraclius's death he had shown his affection to his sons and his wife Martina because of the kindness (Heraclius) had shown him. 49. And after he had been baptized with life-giving baptism he overcame all the barbarians and heathens through Virtue of holy baptism. Now touching him it is said that he supported the interests of the children of Heraclius and opposed those of Constantine. 50. And in consequence of this evil report all the soldiers in Constantinople and the people rose up, and Jыtвlоjыs, the son of Constantine, named Theodore became the chief of their forces. And he was a doughty warrior like his father. 51. And when they had made preparations to fight with David the Matarguem, the latter fled and took refuge in a fortress of Armenia. And (Jыtвl&#305;jыs) pursued him and, since none could render him aid, cut off his head and had it sent round all the cities of the east. 52. And next he marched with a large force to the city of Byzantium and he captured the palace, and he had Martina and her three sons, Heraclius, David, and Marinus, escorted forth with insolence, and he stripped them of the imperial crown, and he had their noses cut off, and he sent them in exile to Rhodes. 53. And the patriarch Pyrrhus was deposed without having recourse to a council, and he was removed from the Church and sent in banishment to Tripoli where Philagrius was. And Philagrius indeed was brought back from banishment. 54. And the youngest son of Martina was castrated, through fear, as they said, of his becoming emperor when he grew up. But the child could not endure the great wound, and straightway died. And the second of her sons was a deaf-mute, and so was unfit for the throne. For |198 this reason they did him no injury. 55. And they set at naught the will of Heraclius the elder, and they made Constans, the son of Constantine, emperor. And they appointed Paul of the city of Constantinople in the room of the patriarch Pyrrhus.





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Тема Re: Захари Ритор-От Зиезинови [re: St.Lucifer]  
Автор St.LuciferМодератор (Fallen_Angel)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:18



Красноречив пример за некоректен превод !

Според Златарски /Том 1 Част 1 стр. 35/ в оригинала пише BURGARE, а не BULGARI.

Този превод на английски би трябвало да отбележи тази тънк разлика, тъй като това е невероятно важно.

Ако приравним BURGARE към BULGARI то трябва науката да признае, че българите са от време оно на Балканите, тъй като BURGARE са засвидетелствани многократно на Балканите - през II-III век.



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Тема Re: Темите на »№*ы{}lЏ3©®™нови [re: St.Lucifer]  
Автор »№*ы{}lЏ3©®™ (Тортурач)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:27



В отговор на:

»№*ы{}lЏ3©®™, защо в три отделни теми??? На всички поотделно ли да кажа??



Нещо не ти схванах питането.



Тема Re: Захари Ритор-От Зиезинови [re: St.Lucifer]  
Автор »№*ы{}lЏ3©®™ (Тортурач)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:30



В отговор на:

Според Златарски /Том 1 Част 1 стр. 35/ в оригинала пише BURGARE, а не BULGARI.



И според други, но например Димитър Ангелов приема, че това са българите.
Арабите изписват "българи" като "бурджан".



Тема Re: Темите на »№*ы{}lЏ3©®™нови [re: »№*ы{}lЏ3©®™]  
Автор St.LuciferМодератор (Fallen_Angel)
Публикувано09.09.04 10:31



И в четирите говориш за хроники, в които се споменават българите - защо в отделни теми ги написа, а не както аз сега ти ги сложих?

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