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 Re: По молба на Медарко, относно бозата Епизод 1
[re: DarthMaul]
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.SENNA. (необуздан) |
| Публикувано | 12.05.02 00:22 |
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малък бях, палав бях
сега не смея...ако приятелката ми разбере, че върша нещо подобно сега... не знам
младост беше, ееееех
ТЪМНА НОЩ, ДУХА ВЯТЪР
ЦИГАНИН ОТИВА НА ТЕАТЪР
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....... axa iasno..... nema zashto da se govori poveche
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Re: По молба на Медарко, относно бозата Епизод 1
[re: .SENNA.]
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Kyle Katarn (запознат) |
| Публикувано | 13.05.02 13:58 |
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С голямо закъснение да се включа и аз в дискусията Сега, Сена - един въпрос - как ще ти се сторят Еп.4,5,6 ако ги гледаш сега за пръв път? Сега имахме възможност да ги видим за пореден път - можеш ли да се абстрахираш от спомените ти и да погледнеш "на чисто".
Мисля , че и други са повдигали този въпрос, но ,пич, като си 7 годишен (моя случай) и си гледал само "На всеки километър", няма видео и кабелна телевизия и изведнъж над главата ти се проточи звезден разрушител (начална сцена Еп.4) няма начин да не станеш фен завинаги. И винаги, ама винаги ще подхождаш субективно.....Не казвам нищо против старите епизоди - винаги ще ги обожавам, но в тях също има наивни моменти, недомислици и прочие - така се правило кино тогава с такива диалози с тази не по-малко сладникава романтика която ти критикуваш (цялата любовна история между Соло,Лея и Люк- наивитет отвсякъде но те кефи, намираш го за симпатично, спомняш ли си Лея "ти нищо не разбираш от жени" и целува Люк и реакциите на двамата - не е ли наивно и сладникаво?)
И какви бяха тия дискусии относно физическата реалност на нещата - ами как Хан Соло и другите излязоха извън Сокола в оня метеорит дето беше червей?!
Защо се търси под вола теле - питам те, можеше ли Лукас да направи новите серии да пасват на нашите нагласи и вкусове отпреди 20 год. Ами кои ще го гледа тоя филм - само от 75 набор надолу ли?
Ти първо писа в клуб "кино" , нали, и аз ти писах тогава че съм съгласен с доста неща. Можеше Еп.1 да е по-добър , така е , но повярвай ми на днешните младежи старите серии им се струват мухлясали, 14 годишния Люк е изключение. По времето когато пуснаха Еп1. аз още бях в БГ и карах стаж в НПМГ- то в София и направих сондаж на почти всички ученици там - "боза" беше общото мнение за старите серии
Говорих им аз как го чуствам филма , че не са прави , от девет кладенеца вода вадих - всуе приятелю ! За тях това е миналия век.
Такъв е редът на нещата, така повелява Силата
Затова само 14-15 годишните са обсъждали Еп.1 след прожекцията - щото е направен за тях,а не за нас!
Е, малко се поувлякох ще прощавате
Поздрави!
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...... Sauchenicite mi poludiaxa po E1 i chakat E2, no me ubixa s gavri dnes che sam fan na Mark Hamill i starite serii...... kazaxa che E4 e strashna dosada i az biax bezkraino ogorchen i obiden.... chak kato prochatox mnenieto ti vdiavam za kakvo stava duma....
Az sam izkliuchenie zashto imam sestra na 29god i brat na 25 koito sa fanove... te me zapalixa i to tvarde kasno ... a povoda da gledam filma beshe che MRAZEX Hamill, zashtoto sme rodeni na edna i sashta data i na vseki moi rojden den se govoreshe poveche za nego otkolkoto za men.... Na 11 god. se zapisax v 1 teatralna shkola, postanovchika ni beshe sashto fan i mi kaza da prenebregna egoizma si i da gledam filma cheteiki i misleiki sas sarceto si.... Gledax E6 i umriaqx ot sram che sam opliuval takova neshto....... a Mark mi xaresa mnogo poveche otkolkoto predpolagax che e vazmojno........
Mislia che tova e edinichen sluchai............. priatelite mi si padat po drugi neshta no sega gi zapalix i veche imame bileti za E2 v plovdiv.... i tova e postijenie.... Tuk shte davat SW chak drugia mesec:((
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Izpitvam sy6toto 4uvsvo.Absoliutno vsi4ki okolo men(osven vas) sa iaki fenove na Tolkein,imraziat SW.Makar 4e sa na dostaty4no godini(17-18) i neim prili4a da govoriat takiva ne6ta za Star Wars te prodyljavat da opliuvat Voinite.Az ima kazvam 4e niama nikakva baza za sravnenie m/u Star Wars i LOTR no...
Neme razbiraite pogre6no i az haresvam Vlastelina no takova ne6to kato sravnenie e absurd
A po povod puskaneto na ep2 spokoino.Tuk v Botevgrad 6te doide po-kysno ot kraia na Iuni.No az nemoga da izdyrja tolkova dylgo vreme i 6te go gledam v Sofia
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Два коментара на хора, гледали Еп2..
[re: .SENNA.]
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lron_Man (новак) |
| Публикувано | 14.05.02 08:09 |
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За съжаление на английски, ама вие сте интелигентни момчета и момичета..
John Paul Rice (johnpaulrice@onebox.com)
Los Angeles, CA
Date: 3 May 2002
Summary: Star Wars is back! Episode II is a great movie that hooks you with anticipation for the unknown in Episode III.
I went to a screening of EP 2 last night - WOW - much better than the first one both in story and action. The characters are more fleshed out and likeable - even the bad guys like Count Dooku - portrayed by Christopher Lee is a good-bad guy. Fans should like the stories behind Jango Fett and Count Dooku, but Yoda is the one in this film that people will talk about for a long time to come.
THIS is the film that is the hook for everyone to want to see the next -not out of hoping it will be better, but because of how things will unfold - leaving you in anticipation for the unknown (even when knowing what will happen by Episode IV: A New Hope).
Star Wars Episode II is an impressive achievement for the future of digital cinema. The digital effects are more impressive than that of EP 1 and Lord of The Rings. The smallest of details in the backgrounds of the sets are some of the most impressive digital art direction I have seen.
Episode II is definitely a movie for everyone this summer - it's filled with fun, good humor, action and some shocking surprises - all the elements to make it a summer blockbuster.
(jeffreysig@hotmail.com)
Hermosa Beach, CA.
Date: 11 May 2002
Summary: Worth the wait, lives up to the hype!!
What can I say about this movie, other than it was all that a fan could hope to be. Unlike the Phantom Menace, in AOTC we get to learn about the personalities of the characters. The opening sequence is incredible, and the plot is strong enough to carry the entire two hours plus. The romance parts may see a little sappy, but they are necessary. Hayden does a great job portraying Anakin's emotional character, and he is really believable as the boy who will be Vader. Obi-Wan becomes a more likeable, and often humorous figure, who is by far the most entertaining person in the movie. The end battle scene is of course all it's been hyped up to be, but there are some major twists and a few startling surprises. It definitely follows the structure of Empire Strikes Back, all the way to the final scene. The action in this movie is fantastic, yet it leaves plenty of room for the characters to distinguish themselves.
Така. че не унивайте!
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Никой не е унил
Аз какви ужасии четох ,мъка ,мъка ,мъка -
A eто тука е горе-долу:
STAR WARS -- EPISODE 2: ATTACK OF THE CLONES / ** (PG)
May 10, 2002
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Ewan McGregor
Senator Padme Amidala: Natalie Portman
Anakin Skywalker: Hayden Christensen
Twentieth Century Fox presents a film directed by George Lucas. Produced by Rick McGallum. Written by George Lucas and Jonathan Hales. Photographed by David Tattersall. Edited by Ben Burtt. Music by John Williams. Running time: 124 minutes. Classified PG (for sustained sequences of sci-fi action/violence).
BY ROGER EBERT
It is not what's there on the screen that disappoints me, but what's not there. It is easy to hail the imaginative computer images that George Lucas brings to "Star Wars: Episode II--Attack of the Clones." To marvel at his strange new aliens and towering cities and sights such as thousands of clones all marching in perfect ranks into a huge spaceship. To see the beginnings of the dark side in young Anakin Skywalker. All of those experiences are there to be cheered by fans of the "Star Wars" series, and for them this movie will affirm their faith.
But what about the agnostic viewer? The hopeful ticket buyer walking in not as a cultist, but as a moviegoer hoping for a great experience? Is this "Star Wars" critic-proof and scoff-resistant? Yes, probably, at the box office. But as someone who admired the freshness and energy of the earlier films, I was amazed, at the end of "Episode II," to realize that I had not heard one line of quotable, memorable dialogue. And the images, however magnificently conceived, did not have the impact they deserved. I'll get to them in a moment.
The first hour of "Episode II" contains a sensational chase through the skyscraper canyons of a city, and assorted briefer shots of space ships and planets. But most of that first hour consists of dialogue, as the characters establish plot points, update viewers on what has happened since "Episode I," and debate the political crisis facing the Republic. They talk and talk and talk. And their talk is in a flat utilitarian style: They seem more like lawyers than the heroes of a romantic fantasy.
In the classic movie adventures that inspired "Star Wars," dialogue was often colorful, energetic, witty and memorable. The dialogue in "Episode II" exists primarily to advance the plot, provide necessary information, and give a little screen time to continuing characters who are back for a new episode. The only characters in this stretch of the film who have inimitable personal styles are the beloved Yoda and the hated Jar-Jar Binks, whose idiosyncrasies turned off audiences for "Phantom Menace." Yes, Jar-Jar's accent may be odd and his mannerisms irritating, but at least he's a unique individual and not a bland cipher. The other characters--Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padme Amidala, Anakin Skywalker--seem so strangely stiff and formal in their speech that an unwary viewer might be excused for thinking they were the clones, soon to be exposed.
Too much of the rest of the film is given over to a romance between Padme and Anakin in which they're incapable of uttering anything other than the most basic and weary romantic cliches, while regarding each other as if love was something to be endured rather than cherished. There is not a romantic word they exchange that has not long since been reduced to cliche.
No, wait: Anakin tells Padme at one point: "I don't like the sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating--not like you. You're soft and smooth." I hadn't heard that before.
When it comes to the computer-generated images, I feel that I cannot entirely trust the screening experience I had. I could see that in conception many of these sequences were thrilling and inventive. I liked the planet of rain, and the vast coliseum in which the heroes battle strange alien beasts, and the towering Senate chamber, and the secret factory where clones were being manufactured.
But I felt like I had to lean with my eyes toward the screen in order to see what I was being shown. The images didn't pop out and smack me with delight, the way they did in earlier films. There was a certain fuzziness, an indistinctness that seemed to undermine their potential power.
Later I went on the Web to look at the trailers for the movie, and was startled to see how much brighter, crisper and more colorful they seemed on my computer screen than in the theater. Although I know that video images are routinely timed to be brighter than movie images, I suspect another reason for this. "Episode II" was shot entirely on digital video. It is being projected in digital video on 19 screens, but on some 3,000 others, audiences will see it as I did, transferred to film.
How it looks in digital projection I cannot say, although I hope to get a chance to see it that way. I know Lucas believes it looks better than film, but then he has cast his lot with digital. My guess is that the film version of "Episode II" might jump more sharply from the screen in a small multiplex theater. But I saw it on the largest screen in Chicago, and my suspicion is, the density and saturation of the image were not adequate to imprint the image there in a forceful way.
Digital images contain less information than 35mm film images, and the more you test their limits, the more you see that. Two weeks ago I saw "Patton" shown in 70mm Dimension 150, and it was the most astonishing projection I had ever seen--absolute detail on a giant screen, which was 6,000 times larger than a frame of the 70mm film. That's what large-format film can do, but it's a standard Hollywood has abandoned (except for IMAX), and we are being asked to forget how good screen images can look--to accept the compromises. I am sure I will hear from countless fans who assure me that "Episode II" looks terrific, but it does not. At least, what I saw did not. It may look great in digital projection on multiplex-size screens, and I'm sure it will look great on DVD, but on a big screen it lacks the authority it needs.
I have to see the film again to do it justice. I'm sure I will greatly enjoy its visionary sequences on DVD; I like stuff like that. The dialogue is another matter. Perhaps because a movie like this opens everywhere in the world on the same day, the dialogue has to be dumbed down for easier dubbing or subtitling. Wit, poetry and imagination are specific to the languages where they originate, and although translators can work wonders, sometimes you get the words but not the music. So it's safer to avoid the music.
But in a film with a built-in audience, why not go for the high notes? Why not allow the dialogue to be inventive, stylish and expressive?
There is a certain lifelessness in some of the acting, perhaps because the actors were often filmed in front of blue screens so their environments could be added later by computer. Actors speak more slowly than they might--flatly, factually, formally, as if reciting. Sometimes that reflects the ponderous load of the mythology they represent. At other times it simply shows that what they have to say is banal. "Episode II-- Attack of the Clones" is a technological exercise that lacks juice and delight. The title is more appropriate than it should be.
Copyright © Chicago Sun-Times
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Re: za sajalenie si prav:(
[re: Lord_Vader]
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Eager (познат) |
| Публикувано | 14.05.02 17:36 |
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abe kvo da ti kazha.. az na kakvo samo ne sam fen: StarWars, LotR, Discworld, Harry Potter, mnooooooogo drugi fantasy/fantastic tvorbi/filmi. posveshtavam si vremeto na vsiaka edna ot tezi "vseleni" i ednata izobshto ne prechi na drugata...
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Re: По молба на Медарко, относно бозата Епизод 1
[re: Kyle Katarn]
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.SENNA. (необуздан) |
| Публикувано | 14.05.02 18:14 |
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Въпросният отварящ епизод в "Междузвездни войни" /когато се точеше 2 минути разрушителя на Империята/ си остава култов, независимо дали съм го гледал на 10 години или в неделя по Канал 1. Ей точно това липсва в Епизод 1. Няма такива моменти, за които да си спомняш с кеф.
Относно днешното поколение /14-15 годишните/. Доста съмнителен вкус имат за да са някакъв обективен критерий за стойностно оценяване. Те са едни телевизионно- компютърно чалга/рап/ зомбирани същества, нещо което аз за щастие не съм бил.
ТЪМНА НОЩ, ДУХА ВЯТЪР
ЦИГАНИН ОТИВА НА ТЕАТЪР
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Re: По молба на Медарко, относно бозата Епизод 1
[re: .SENNA.]
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Kyle Katarn (запознат) |
| Публикувано | 14.05.02 18:25 |
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Аз и не твърдя че са обективен критерии, ама новите серии просто са правени за тях. Това е то.....не можем да обвиним Лукас че се е прицелил в тяхната аудитория.
Стига по тоя въпрос, аз все още съм оптимист и ми гот (сигурно защото тук цял ден валя а сега като трябва да си тръгвам от работа е слънчево).
Пожелавам на всички приятно гледане на Еп.2 !!!
Силата е винаги с Вас!
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