HILJADU MI BUBNJEVA!!!!
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HILJADU MI BUBNJEVA!!!!
JELENSKIH MI ROGOVA!!!!!!!!!! DABROVE MI KAPE!!!!!!!!!
Vistina bilo, bugarite se azijati. Dobro, site znaevme, ama drugo e koga genite kje se mapiraat. Nisto, elokventnite odovori na bugarite kako Vovata se staveni pod embargo sega za sega. Genite sepak nesto znacat i krvta ne e voda.
Vistina bilo, bugarite se azijati. Dobro, site znaevme, ama drugo e koga genite kje se mapiraat. Nisto, elokventnite odovori na bugarite kako Vovata se staveni pod embargo sega za sega. Genite sepak nesto znacat i krvta ne e voda.
anthropological data suggesting presence of
"...anthropological data suggesting presence of Mongoloid traits in the Bulgarian population especially in the NorthEastern Bulgaria through the entire medieval period......"
Let this serve as an irrefutable personal message from (their own) Bolgar scientists to Tinko Tinkachot, Vovata, Pero, Vasil Kurlakovski, Paunot, Stef, Dimo ("Fraer") and the rest of the Tataroman peder brigade!!!!!!!!!!!!
TATAROMANI, VISTINATA BOLI!
ARYAN/EUROPOID ("PRA") BULGARS IS AN ILLUSION OF DELUDED TATAROMAN MENTAL MIDGETS!!!
VISTINA
Let this serve as an irrefutable personal message from (their own) Bolgar scientists to Tinko Tinkachot, Vovata, Pero, Vasil Kurlakovski, Paunot, Stef, Dimo ("Fraer") and the rest of the Tataroman peder brigade!!!!!!!!!!!!
TATAROMANI, VISTINATA BOLI!
ARYAN/EUROPOID ("PRA") BULGARS IS AN ILLUSION OF DELUDED TATAROMAN MENTAL MIDGETS!!!
VISTINA
в отговор на Mongoloid traits
#3
направо съм съкрушен
събирам си багажа, за да се изселя за вечни времена в Монголия или Синдзян. По въпроса за "педерската" бригада питай майка си! 
bugar, treba da si zosto ste turko mongoli
THE ISSUE WAS PROBABLY SETTLED BY THE FACT TAHT THE MONGOLIANS WERE NUMERICALLY A DECIDED MINORITY, AND THAT BESIDES, THEY LAGGED, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BEHIND THEIR WHITE DEPENDANTS.....AFTER YEARS OF LIVING SIDE BY SIDE, THE BULGARS GAVE UP THEIR LANGUAGE AND CUSTOMS.....THE BULGAR STATE THOUGH ASIATIC IN ORIGIN AND INSTITUTIONS, THUS ESSENTIALLY BECAME A SLAV STATE.....EXACTLY WHAT THE SOCIAL AND INTELLECTUAL SIGNIFICANCE OF TEH MONGOLIAN CONTRIBUTION TO TEH BULGARIAN NATIONALITY WAS, THERE IS NO MEANS OF TELLING; BUT DOUBTLESS THE FACT THAT THE BULGAR THROUGH THE AGES AND DOWN TO OUR DAY DIFFERS SOMEWHAT IN PHYSICAL TYPE AND MENTAL ENDOWNMENT FROM THE PURER SLAV TO THE WEST OF HIM, THE SERB [SIC] MAY BE ASCRIBED TO THE ASIATIC FACTOR IN HIS BLOOD."
A History of the Balkans, p. 94-95.
A History of the Balkans, p. 94-95.
Ajde malku azijata Dobrina da go citirame
The Ancient Bulgarians from Imeon and their Neighbours.
Near Mount Imeon (present day Pamyr and Hindukush), the most ancient Bulgarian land, one of the earliest agricultural civilisations of the East developed 4000-5000 years ago.
The famous peoples of Utis, Paktis and Sogdians were also neighbours of the Bulgarians in the region of Mount Imeon. It is known that they lived there as early as 7th-6th century BC. The name Utis is mentioned by the Greek historian Herodotus among the peoples that lived the eastern most parts of the Persian Empire at the foothills of Mount Imeon. A thousand years later, the Byzantine historian Agatius Mirinei indicates another people at the same place naming it Utigurs, one of the well-known Bulgarian tribes. According to Agatius, the Utigurs, Kutrigurs and Vurugunds (probably Unogundurs) inhabited the lands on this side of Mount Imeon in Asia. Probably, this information is not misleading because even today a large tribe called Uts lives in the valleys of Hindukush in Afghanistan. The same name, Uts, is borne today by a small Caucasus people in Dagestan (called Uts in Caucassus and Udins in Russian).
In ancient times, the Bulgarians were also in close contact with the Indians who lived to the south of the Old Bulgarian fatherland. According to the “Machabharate”, the ancient Indian epic, the Bulgarians participated in the great Indian war as allies of the Indian royal clan, the Kauravs, and famed themselves as brave warriors on horseback.
What are the common features, peculiarities and achievements of the large peoples that were neighbours of the ancient Bulgarians? Firstly, they all spoke languages, which belonged to the East-Iranian (Indoeuropean) type. This is true about the Masagets, the Alans who sprang from them and whose descendants were the Osetins in Caucasus, the Saks, Sogdis, Utis, Paktis and Horemsians. Their written monuments are the object of a special branch of Iranian Studies – Middle-Iranian Linguistics.
Another general feature of all neighbours of the ancient Bulgarians is the fact that most of them had strong states and were occupied with trade.
The Armenian geography “Ashharatsuits” says the following: “In Skitia [Central Asia] there are five countries, of which the Sogdiana and Sakastan are known. These two regions are inhabited by up to 15 peoples which are rich craftsmanship and trade peoples living in the space between Turkestan and Iran in the foothills of Mount Imai (Imeon), amongst whom there exist 43 nomadic tribes. Of the 15 peoples, one is called Massagets, after it comes the the Bulh people [Bulgarians], and after it to the north-west come the Horesmians where in the Tur region the Horesmian Stone is extracted as well as the best Serdolik. Of the 43 tribes, one is called Heptal [the Huns-Eftalits], another is Alhon, the third is Valhon, and the rest of them bear such barbaric names that it is not worth mentioning them”.
From this source, it is evident that the ancient Bulgarians were positioned near Mount Imeon in a varied and complex surrounding of peoples. The fact that they used to live in that particular region of the world is obvious even from their name. The Pamyr word “bulhor” means Bulgarian, a citizen of Bulgaria, in all the languages of the region. The use of the Pamyr form of the name of the Bulgarians in the “Ashharatsuits” shows that the Armenian writers got their information from a reliable and authentic source. That is why the picture presented by them is a valuable asset for throwing some light on the ancient history of the Bulgarians.
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE, BUGARIJA NA BUGARITE!
Near Mount Imeon (present day Pamyr and Hindukush), the most ancient Bulgarian land, one of the earliest agricultural civilisations of the East developed 4000-5000 years ago.
The famous peoples of Utis, Paktis and Sogdians were also neighbours of the Bulgarians in the region of Mount Imeon. It is known that they lived there as early as 7th-6th century BC. The name Utis is mentioned by the Greek historian Herodotus among the peoples that lived the eastern most parts of the Persian Empire at the foothills of Mount Imeon. A thousand years later, the Byzantine historian Agatius Mirinei indicates another people at the same place naming it Utigurs, one of the well-known Bulgarian tribes. According to Agatius, the Utigurs, Kutrigurs and Vurugunds (probably Unogundurs) inhabited the lands on this side of Mount Imeon in Asia. Probably, this information is not misleading because even today a large tribe called Uts lives in the valleys of Hindukush in Afghanistan. The same name, Uts, is borne today by a small Caucasus people in Dagestan (called Uts in Caucassus and Udins in Russian).
In ancient times, the Bulgarians were also in close contact with the Indians who lived to the south of the Old Bulgarian fatherland. According to the “Machabharate”, the ancient Indian epic, the Bulgarians participated in the great Indian war as allies of the Indian royal clan, the Kauravs, and famed themselves as brave warriors on horseback.
What are the common features, peculiarities and achievements of the large peoples that were neighbours of the ancient Bulgarians? Firstly, they all spoke languages, which belonged to the East-Iranian (Indoeuropean) type. This is true about the Masagets, the Alans who sprang from them and whose descendants were the Osetins in Caucasus, the Saks, Sogdis, Utis, Paktis and Horemsians. Their written monuments are the object of a special branch of Iranian Studies – Middle-Iranian Linguistics.
Another general feature of all neighbours of the ancient Bulgarians is the fact that most of them had strong states and were occupied with trade.
The Armenian geography “Ashharatsuits” says the following: “In Skitia [Central Asia] there are five countries, of which the Sogdiana and Sakastan are known. These two regions are inhabited by up to 15 peoples which are rich craftsmanship and trade peoples living in the space between Turkestan and Iran in the foothills of Mount Imai (Imeon), amongst whom there exist 43 nomadic tribes. Of the 15 peoples, one is called Massagets, after it comes the the Bulh people [Bulgarians], and after it to the north-west come the Horesmians where in the Tur region the Horesmian Stone is extracted as well as the best Serdolik. Of the 43 tribes, one is called Heptal [the Huns-Eftalits], another is Alhon, the third is Valhon, and the rest of them bear such barbaric names that it is not worth mentioning them”.
From this source, it is evident that the ancient Bulgarians were positioned near Mount Imeon in a varied and complex surrounding of peoples. The fact that they used to live in that particular region of the world is obvious even from their name. The Pamyr word “bulhor” means Bulgarian, a citizen of Bulgaria, in all the languages of the region. The use of the Pamyr form of the name of the Bulgarians in the “Ashharatsuits” shows that the Armenian writers got their information from a reliable and authentic source. That is why the picture presented by them is a valuable asset for throwing some light on the ancient history of the Bulgarians.
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE, BUGARIJA NA BUGARITE!
в отговор на Dordo Kapuze
#6
Zosto Makedocite ve vikaat 'Tatari'
DA RAZJASNIME NEKOI RABOTI ZOSTO NIE MAKEDONCITE VE VIKAME VAS BUGARITE 'TATARI':
SO EDEN ZBOR: ZATOA STO VOLOSKITE TATARI POTEKNUVAAT OD VOLOSKITE BUGARI! NIVNIOT JAZIK E TURKSKI (turkic) ISTO KAKO I BUGARSKIOT. TIE NI SE PERSONIFIKACIJA ZA TOA STO NIE NE SME, A VIE STE! BUGAROMANITE NEKA RAZMISLAT MALCE ZA OVA.
PATEM, KAVKASKITE 'BALKARI' ISTO TAKA POTEKNUVAAT OD BUGARITE. NIVNIOT JAZIK ISTO TAKA E TURKSKI I SE VO NIVNIOT JAZIK IMA PRIZVUK I AKCENT NA KAVKASKI GOVOR.
Makedonija na Makedoncite, Bugarija na Bugarite!
SO EDEN ZBOR: ZATOA STO VOLOSKITE TATARI POTEKNUVAAT OD VOLOSKITE BUGARI! NIVNIOT JAZIK E TURKSKI (turkic) ISTO KAKO I BUGARSKIOT. TIE NI SE PERSONIFIKACIJA ZA TOA STO NIE NE SME, A VIE STE! BUGAROMANITE NEKA RAZMISLAT MALCE ZA OVA.
PATEM, KAVKASKITE 'BALKARI' ISTO TAKA POTEKNUVAAT OD BUGARITE. NIVNIOT JAZIK ISTO TAKA E TURKSKI I SE VO NIVNIOT JAZIK IMA PRIZVUK I AKCENT NA KAVKASKI GOVOR.
Makedonija na Makedoncite, Bugarija na Bugarite!
Re: Zosto Makedocite ve vikaat 'Tatari'
Dosta neshta ne sa ti (i na tija otgore) jasni. Volgokamskite Bulgari zborat Kipchak (Kumanski Turkik dialekt. Nikoj lingvist ne tvrdi deka jazikot na Kazanskite Tatari poteknuva ot Bulgarski. Tie kako takov go opredeljat Chuvashkiot (r-Turkik). No Chuvashite prosto poteknuvat ot Suvarite (vo mnozinstvo) i ne mozi jazikot da im e Bulgarski.
Vie vikate "Tatari" oti taka ste nauchini ot vashite gazdi Srbi (neli ste si Srbomani). Nema ni eden nauchen dokaz ili temel Bulgarite da bidat narecheni "Tatari". Za spravka oti ne prochitash za vojnite na Tatarite so Bylgarskite Care vo II-to Bylgarsko Carstvo.
Vie vikate "Tatari" oti taka ste nauchini ot vashite gazdi Srbi (neli ste si Srbomani). Nema ni eden nauchen dokaz ili temel Bulgarite da bidat narecheni "Tatari". Za spravka oti ne prochitash za vojnite na Tatarite so Bylgarskite Care vo II-to Bylgarsko Carstvo.
в отговор на Дopдoлe Kaпe
#9
Re: Zosto Makedocite ve vikaat 'Tatari'
Dreme mi na kurac kakvo mislish urode. TUka otochnjavame nekoi fakti. TI kato si ignoramus i ne znaesh elementarni neshta koj ti e kriv.
I koj treba da ti dokazuva tova onova.....ti ako imash kapka intelekt bi se zainteresiral i sam da razberesh.
I koj treba da ti dokazuva tova onova.....ti ako imash kapka intelekt bi se zainteresiral i sam da razberesh.
ja preteraa
....More than 100 major ethnic groups (>10,000 people/group) settled in the Bulgarian land and were assimilated in the three main ethnic components before the formation of the Bulgarian State and after the 7th century - in the Bulgarian population.
ako e taka znachi barem eden milion od ovie + nekoi pomali znachi 2 miliona. kojznae kolku bile od prvite tri grupi za da gi asimiliraat.
abe epten ste bile meshani be. pa posle vikaat makedonska salata a toa da ti bilo shopska.
ako e taka znachi barem eden milion od ovie + nekoi pomali znachi 2 miliona. kojznae kolku bile od prvite tri grupi za da gi asimiliraat.
abe epten ste bile meshani be. pa posle vikaat makedonska salata a toa da ti bilo shopska.
Re: Zosto Makedocite ve vikaat 'Tatari'
Не Фаланге, тука не обиаснуваме факти како нормални луге што прават. Тука вие се натурате како да сте мали деца. Ти на пример найелементарната работа дали йа знаеш?! Знаеш койа е односно дали можеш да йа прифатиш --Македониа на Македонците, Бугариа на Бугарите!
Re: Pa da
kako taka? do pred nekoj den chitav deka deneshnite Bugari bile nekoe soedinenie pomegju Sloveni i Bugari (imale jaki seksualni afiniteti megju sebe ama ne so drugi).
ako tie 100 drugi grupi koi se izmeshale vo BG bile zanemarlivo mali, kade im otide glavninata?
zoshto se smeta deka zhena so ubava glava mora da e ubava i megju nozete?
ako tie 100 drugi grupi koi se izmeshale vo BG bile zanemarlivo mali, kade im otide glavninata?
zoshto se smeta deka zhena so ubava glava mora da e ubava i megju nozete?
Oj mojb, bugarive koj znae kakva meshavina se
КАПРИ горе цитираше дека бугарите биле во малцнство. Не само тоа, биле инфериорни и си го оставиле йазикот и обичаите?!
".....THE MONGOLIANS WERE NUMERICALLY A DECIDED MINORITY, AND THAT BESIDES, THEY LAGGED, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BEHIND THEIR WHITE DEPENDANTS.....AFTER YEARS OF LIVING SIDE BY SIDE, THE BULGARS GAVE UP THEIR LANGUAGE AND CUSTOMS....."
Авторот понатаму ги фали дека станале словени, словенска држава, дека се измешале -- со други зборови се цивилизирале уз нас. Ама ова дека се продукт на 20-30 етноса, па каде го има тоа бе???
".....THE MONGOLIANS WERE NUMERICALLY A DECIDED MINORITY, AND THAT BESIDES, THEY LAGGED, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BEHIND THEIR WHITE DEPENDANTS.....AFTER YEARS OF LIVING SIDE BY SIDE, THE BULGARS GAVE UP THEIR LANGUAGE AND CUSTOMS....."
Авторот понатаму ги фали дека станале словени, словенска држава, дека се измешале -- со други зборови се цивилизирале уз нас. Ама ова дека се продукт на 20-30 етноса, па каде го има тоа бе???
Re: M. Ivanova, P. Spassova, A. Michailova, E. Naumova
Tova za mongolite go talkuvate prevratno. kazano e che niama takav element. no tova niama znachenie.
faktat e che ste rasisti.
i tam pishe no koi da chete - che vie strah da si napravite genetichki analiz (da go prochetem kakto vie chetete) samo slovezi i chehi imat.
a sega de?
faktat e che ste rasisti.
i tam pishe no koi da chete - che vie strah da si napravite genetichki analiz (da go prochetem kakto vie chetete) samo slovezi i chehi imat.
a sega de?
в отговор на Дopдoлe Kaпe
#16
До: Добре БеГалфон
Ти случайно да знаеш че в България си живеят и истински турци, също както и в Македония ? Случайно да си наясно че те са концентрирани в два района, единия от които е северозапад ?
Или нещо напредваш с расовата чистота ?
Та кога ще получим информация за етнотипа на "македонците", но не анализиран като различия с гърците, а като различия с нас ? Също ме интересува проучване за ролята на преселниците от Македония в гореспоменатата картинка. Също ме интересува да се направи същото сравнение на македонци, българи и с Афганските роднини на Ацето.
Когато си готов моля да ни осветлиш.
Или нещо напредваш с расовата чистота ?
Та кога ще получим информация за етнотипа на "македонците", но не анализиран като различия с гърците, а като различия с нас ? Също ме интересува проучване за ролята на преселниците от Македония в гореспоменатата картинка. Също ме интересува да се направи същото сравнение на македонци, българи и с Афганските роднини на Ацето.
Когато си готов моля да ни осветлиш.
в отговор на Dorde Kapuze
#18
Re: Oj mojb, bugarive koj znae kakva meshavina se
па баш си е така и у Америка, па и у Русия, само у ваше село не така ама сега албанците че ви цивилизоват па я си губих времето да читам айваро и що вицове видех там само за шиптаре, ха ха ха, нали знаеш за кого се думат вицове, за оня дето има власт де
ама сега албанците че ви цивилизоват па я си губих времето да читам айваро и що вицове видех там само за шиптаре, ха ха ха, нали знаеш за кого се думат вицове, за оня дето има власт де
в отговор на Dorde Kapuze
#19
Re: Oj mojb, bugarive koj znae kakva meshavina se
".....THE MONGOLIANS WERE NUMERICALLY A DECIDED MINORITY, AND THAT BESIDES, THEY LAGGED, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, .."
nekakvi "MONGOLIANS", nekakvi "LAGGED, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC"
e mi tva ako ne go e pisal srbin pa te na!!!!
nekakvi "MONGOLIANS", nekakvi "LAGGED, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC"
e mi tva ako ne go e pisal srbin pa te na!!!!
Re: Zosto Makedocite ve vikaat 'Tatari'
е викате щото сте тъпи, като викате на нас все едно по вас викате, ама сте прости да го разберете.
The presence in Bulgarians of A*0207, A*36 and B*56 alleles and A*02-B*38-Cw12 and A*24-B*51-Cw*14 (HF 0,008) haplotypes, found also in Asian populations ( 13, 32, 40) might be explained by the invasion of Turkic tribes between the 7th and the 15th century on the Balkan Peninsula. Further support is provided by our previous observations sowing presence of some characteristic for Asians DRB1-DQB1 associations in the Bulgarian population ( 12). Additionally the Bulgars are considered to be of Central Asian origin and some of these alleles and haplotypes might be incorporated as a result of migrations, conquest and assimilation between different Central and South Asians Turkic people. Although some alleles (A*36,B*56), previously found in the Mongolians (40), are also detected in the Bulgarians, the two populations are showed to be quite distant from each other in all kinds of analyses performed. That is not in agreement with the anthropological data suggesting presence of Mongoloid traits in the Bulgarian population especially in the NorthEastern Bulgaria through the entire medieval period.
и да ти го изкарам по-ясно да скиваш, с твойте македонистки очи гурливи
Although some alleles (A*36,B*56), previously found in the Mongolians (40), are also detected in the Bulgarians, the two populations are showed to be quite distant from each other in all kinds of analyses performed.
мисля, че ми олекна, не съм бил татаро-монгол, хехе.
The presence in Bulgarians of A*0207, A*36 and B*56 alleles and A*02-B*38-Cw12 and A*24-B*51-Cw*14 (HF 0,008) haplotypes, found also in Asian populations ( 13, 32, 40) might be explained by the invasion of Turkic tribes between the 7th and the 15th century on the Balkan Peninsula. Further support is provided by our previous observations sowing presence of some characteristic for Asians DRB1-DQB1 associations in the Bulgarian population ( 12). Additionally the Bulgars are considered to be of Central Asian origin and some of these alleles and haplotypes might be incorporated as a result of migrations, conquest and assimilation between different Central and South Asians Turkic people. Although some alleles (A*36,B*56), previously found in the Mongolians (40), are also detected in the Bulgarians, the two populations are showed to be quite distant from each other in all kinds of analyses performed. That is not in agreement with the anthropological data suggesting presence of Mongoloid traits in the Bulgarian population especially in the NorthEastern Bulgaria through the entire medieval period.
и да ти го изкарам по-ясно да скиваш, с твойте македонистки очи гурливи
Although some alleles (A*36,B*56), previously found in the Mongolians (40), are also detected in the Bulgarians, the two populations are showed to be quite distant from each other in all kinds of analyses performed.
мисля, че ми олекна, не съм бил татаро-монгол, хехе.