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Клубове Дирене Регистрация Кой е тук Въпроси Списък Купувам / Продавам 15:22 02.07.24 
Клубове/ Религия и мистика / Йога Всички теми Следваща тема Пълен преглед*
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Тема Re: хранене с прана [re: Beдpocт]
Автор BrandofAmber ()
Публикувано27.03.07 14:02  



откъсче от това което пише за нея в wikipedia
не е гаранция за нищо - разбира се
но и в нейната страница тя не отрича
че едно от нещата до което може да доведе
този метод е болест или смърт

имайки предвит че май няма доказателства
че някой го е довел до нещо друго
цялата работа ми се струва
доста странна


не искам да ти развалям ентусиазма
ако някой намери самата 21 дневна програма
ще ми е интересно да я пробвам
но не смятам да спирам да ям между временно :)

...
When the Australian television programme 60 Minutes challenged her to demonstrate how she can live without food and water, the supervising medical professional Dr Beres Wenck found that after just 48 hours, Ellen displayed the physical symptoms of acute dehydration, stress and high blood pressure. Ellen claimed that this was a result of 'polluted air'. On day 3, Ms Greve was moved to a mountainside retreat about 15 miles from the city, where she was filmed enjoying the fresh air she said she could now live on happily. However, as the filming progressed, her speech slowed, her pupils dilated and she lost over a stone (6 kg) in weight. After 4 days Ellen acknowledged that she had lost weight but stated that she felt fine, despite Dr Wenck telling her, "You are now quite dehydrated, probably over 10%, getting up to 11%". The doctor also announced, "Her pulse is about double what it was when she started. The risks if she goes any further are kidney failure."[1]

Ellen's condition did not thereby improve in the opinion of the medical professionals involved, despite her insistence to the contrary, and they decided that continuing the experiment would be highly dangerous and ultimately fatal. The film crew subsequently concurred with Dr Wenck's opinions and ceased the experiment, claiming that she was deluded. Ms Greve has since stated on her website that the program's presenter Richard Carleton, together with Dr Wenck and the program's producers, conspired to discredit her with fabricated evidence.

She is quoted by the Correx Archives as saying, regarding how much she eats:[2]

Generally not much at all. Maybe a few cups of tea and a glass of water, but now and then if I feel a bit bored and I want some flavour, then I will have a mouthful of whatever it is I'm wanting the flavour of. So it might be a piece of chocolate or it might be a mouthful of a cheesecake or something like that.

In many other interviews she has stated that she has lived on approximately 300 calories per day for the last twelve years and maintained full health through supplementing her fluid intake with cosmic particles or micro-food, also known as prana. She says she has not yet mastered the ability to be fluid-free for more than short periods. Several interviewers have found her house full of food, but she claimed the food is for her husband. They lived in a house in Brisbane's Chapel Hill. As of 2006, her fridge carries baby food for her grandchild's visits.

When challenged as to her claims that people could be nourished by an alternate internal energy source and be free from the need to eat physical food and water, she said: "Remember there was a time when we thought the sun circled the earth, and that the earth was flat and that man would never walk on the moon. New information and research often challenges the status quo."

The website www.jasmuheen.com contains a forum for readers to express their views, but persistent questioning from forum contributors Tim Dobson and John Hunsley throughout 2005 and into 2006 revealed that Jasmuheen will not agree to try and prove her claimed abilities to anyone, and ultimately Jasmuheen responded to such challenges by closing the forum to all users except herself, stating that it would re-open only if intelligent discussion that was respectful of all views could be held without abusive entries.

Jasmuheen was awarded the Bent Spoon Award by Australian Skeptics in 2000 ("presented to the perpetrator of the most preposterous piece of paranormal or pseudoscientific piffle").[3] She was also awarded the 2000 Ig Nobel Prize for Literature for her book Pranic Nourishment — Living on Light, "which explains that although some people do eat food, they don't ever really need to."[4]

Jasmuheen has claimed that her beliefs are based on the writings and "more recent channelled material" of the Count of St Germain.[5] She claims that her DNA has expanded from 2 to 12 strands, to "absorb more hydrogen". The extra strands of DNA have not, of course, been demonstrated, and in fact when offered $30,000 to prove her claim with a blood test, she stated that "you cannot view spiritual energy under a microscope." She claims that such a challenge is a deliberate attack on her beliefs, and refuses to act as an example of her claimed paranormal attributes.[2]


[edit] Deaths
To date, three deaths have been directly linked to breatharianism and her publications. (See Breatharian for details.) Jasmuheen has denied any moral responsibility for this. In reference to the death of Lani Morris, for example, she said that perhaps Morris was "not coming from a place of integrity and did not have the right motivation."[6] After an investigation by the Australian and Scottish police, Jasmuheen was not charged in connection with these deaths. She was also fully investigated in 1999 by UK Cult Investigators who were unable and unwilling to label her a cult leader.[citation needed]

During a seminar she hosted in the village of Devesset in France in November 2005, however, Jean-Michel Roulet — head of the French government's Anti-Sect unit MIVILUDES — described the prolonged fasting preached by Greve as "aberrant", and went on in a statement to Le Parisien newspaper to say that Greve's group had used "a veritable attack on an individual's freedom by way of mental manipulation."

All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.


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* "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на Агарт Иkвooттoвa   26.03.07 01:58
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А vitaminko   26.03.07 03:29
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Darth_Vader™   26.03.07 07:39
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Иkвooттoвa   26.03.07 08:29
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Люб   26.03.07 18:46
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Darth_Vader™   26.03.07 07:48
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А huanji   26.03.07 09:01
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на Агарт huanji   26.03.07 09:04
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Coorhagen*Willendorf   26.03.07 13:41
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Darth_Vader™   26.03.07 17:29
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А huanji   26.03.07 21:15
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Coorhagen*Willendorf   26.03.07 21:18
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А huanji   26.03.07 21:31
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на Агарт бeзпътeн   26.03.07 12:30
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Darth_Vader™   26.03.07 13:02
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А huanji   26.03.07 13:36
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А бeзпътeн   26.03.07 14:26
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на Агарт huanji   26.03.07 21:29
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на Агарт Meч нa Пpaвocъдиe   26.03.07 23:18
. * хранене с прана Beдpocт   26.03.07 23:32
. * Re: хранене с прана vitaminko   27.03.07 12:26
. * Re: хранене с прана BrandofAmber   27.03.07 14:02
. * Re: хранене с прана Beдpocт   27.03.07 23:39
. * Re: хранене с прана BrandofAmber   28.03.07 14:15
. * прани4но дишане Beдpocт   30.03.07 23:31
. * Re: прани4но дишане BrandofAmber   30.03.07 23:51
. * Re: прани4но дишане Beдpocт   02.04.07 02:05
. * Re: Как мислят канибалите? Глупавият с глупави се Иkвooттoвa   15.04.07 07:53
. * Re: прани4но дишане Иkвooттoвa   31.03.07 19:30
. * Re: прани4но дишане BrandofAmber   01.04.07 00:17
. * Re: прани4но дишане Beдpocт   02.04.07 01:57
. * Кефиш ме дърто Магаре максимално titiksha_   27.03.07 16:46
. * Re: Кефиш ме дърто Магаре максимално Иkвooттoвa   27.03.07 22:28
. * Ти си си Муле, ма аз съм си цяло магаре titiksha_   28.03.07 00:21
. * Re: Ти си си Муле, ма аз съм си цяло магаре Иkвooттoвa   28.03.07 08:25
. * Re: Ти си си Муле, ма аз съм си цяло магаре titiksha_   28.03.07 16:55
. * Re: Ти си си Муле, ма аз съм си цяло магаре Ria*   28.03.07 21:19
. * Кефиш ме дърто Магаре максимално Цap Изpoд   28.03.07 01:04
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на Агарт Drona   28.03.07 09:05
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на Агарт Ria*   28.03.07 20:57
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Darth_Vader™   28.03.07 21:54
. * Re: "Оправданието" на Мулето, за глупостите на А Ria*   28.03.07 22:29
. * Дронаджи, едно безценно изречение titiksha_   28.03.07 22:59
. * нямя как да не постна и този текст: titiksha_   28.03.07 23:07
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