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"The Balkans, 1809-1999" [re: Dobrin] |
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Vassil () |
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Публикувано | 22.08.00 00:35 |
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Zdravej Dobrine,
bjah rezjumiral osnovnite momenti ot karachajskata stranica i sega preprashtam komentarite na tjurkologa Gursey, koito toj prati do sci.lang. Shte gledam da mu otgovorja po njakolko punkta, a ako iskash i ti i drugite se vkljuchete v diskusijata. V lichno pismo toj syshto mi pisa:
"aha, it is by miziev. he is the guy that hubey quoted endlessly last year.
apparently a balkar, he is the mirror image of dobrev - this time seeing
turkic in every iranian group. nevertheless, one must still make a case by
case criticism."
Kakto shte vidish i Gursey se opira solidno na Pritsak kato na svetilo po vyprosa za tjurksija, proto-tjurkski proizhod na hunite. T.e. chrez hunite (i pra-bylgarite kato tehni naj-blizki naslednici) ako zabeljazvash te se opitvat da vkarat tjurki v Evropa mnogo predi pyrvata dokumentirana pojava na samoto ime "tjurki" na severo-iztok ot Sasanidki Iran, Zapadno-tjurkskija haganat i t.n. Dori se pozovavat na svedenie u Herodot za reka "Daik/Dajk" pri Ural, verojatno dneshnata Jaik. Tova bilo ezikova sleda ot njakakyv star tjurkski klon, "d-tjurkski", syshtestvuvasht ot predi 2000 godini v Evropa...
> ###I tuka otnovo vrashtane kam starata idea za edinstvoto na Bulgari-Huni-Turki
>za da orientirat smaiania chitatel kakvo triabva da se razbira ot cialata taja kasha.
tova maj e i idejata na Pritsak i za tova taka se jadosvah kato chetoh Georgi Bakalov da se posovava na nego kato na njakakvo svetilo otrichashto tjurkskija proizhod na prabylgarite. Napravo ni nabutaha v koshera s osite...
> The largest archeological monument of Khazar Kahanat in Northern Caucasus is the
>well-known Bulgarian town of Humara on the right bank of Kuban near settlement Humara.
>This fortified town was surrounded by a strong stone wall, which was from 3.5 to 6 meters thick.
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> ### nai-golemia Khzarski bil the well-known Bulgarian town. Napravo nezabravimo izkazvane.
e, nali e syshtestvuval glavno po hazarsko vreme, v tjahnata dyrzhava. Prabylgarite vse pak sa myrdali nasam-natam i Humarin e izgraden na mjastoto na po-staro alansko selishte.
>Maybe this is why other Balkarians call them "hunachi malkarlila", that is, Balkarian masons.
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>###Ei tova poslednoto da vzemem da go pratim na nashite v Sofia deto veche 100 godini se
>chudiat koi bil postroil krepostite i dvorcite na prabulgarite. To alanite li ne probvaha,
>slavianite li, chak Vizantiiski plennici dokaraha samo i samo za da si zatvoriat ochite za
>istinata.
vse pak povecheto takiva "belo-kamenni" kreposti, chetirinadeset maj bjaha, sa delo na alani. Prabylgarski proizhod se
tvyrdi samo za 2-3 - Humarin, tazi do Sarkel i onazi po' na sever, kato poslednite dve sa pod symnenie. Za dvorcite v Pliska sym vizhdal i tvyrdenija za sirijski, umaidski paraleli. Vizh i statijata na Stephan Nikolov, kojato e indeksirana ot mojate web-stranica i kojato zasjaga tozi vypros.
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"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
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Vassil
| 19.08.00 17:03 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 19.08.00 20:32 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Vassil
| 19.08.00 21:36 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 19.08.00 23:16 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Vassil
| 20.08.00 14:04 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Vassil
| 20.08.00 14:17 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 20.08.00 20:13 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Vassil
| 22.08.00 00:35 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Vassil
| 22.08.00 00:38 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 22.08.00 22:04 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Vassil
| 22.08.00 23:10 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 23.08.00 03:17 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Vassil
| 23.08.00 05:43 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 23.08.00 07:50 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Васил
| 23.08.00 17:02 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 24.08.00 08:09 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Васил
| 23.08.00 20:25 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 24.08.00 08:25 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Laci
| 21.08.00 01:28 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 21.08.00 02:55 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Laci
| 21.08.00 01:29 |
"The Balkans, 1809-1999"
| Dobrin
| 21.08.00 02:59 |
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