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Клубове Дирене Регистрация Кой е тук Въпроси Списък Купувам / Продавам 04:20 04.11.25 
Клубове/ Политика, Свят / Македония Пълен преглед*
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Тема Re: objasni go. [re: tulsa]
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Публикувано05.06.02 21:52  



Salonika, Fabruary 1874. Your obedient P.R. Slaveykov

Another letter from P.R. Slaveykov: Your Grace,

I sent you a letter via a trustworthy man two days ago, in which I briefly described to you the situation in Salonika and Macedonia in connection with the unreasonable movement for the restoration of the Archbishopric of Ohrid in union with the Roman Catholic Church. After the meeting with some of the local elders I have understood that there were everywhere wide discussions for a broader plan, namely, to create a Uniate Church in Macedonia.

According to reliable sources, only the cheirotonia of Father Hariton is awaited before action will be taken. Until the blessing of the Pope for the proclamation of the Uniate Archbishopric of Ohrid arrives, the bishops with their eparchies will be constituent apart of the Uniate Church with their seat in Adrianople. Then Father Nathaniel will be appointed Archbishop of Ohrid and the following appointments will be made in the eparchies: Father Panaret for the Pelagonia eparchy, Brother Kozma Prechistenski for the Debar eparchy, Father Nil Izvorov for the Salonika eparchy and Father Dorotej for the Skopje eparchy. The other eparchies, for which there are no candidates proposed, will temporarily be governed by the neighboring archpriests. Father Nil will be Bishop of Salonika, Kukush and Voden. Father Hariton, after his ordination, will also become bishop of the Serez and Melnik eparchies. Father Dionisij, as an archimandrite, will temporarily govern the Strumica eparchy.

I have personal impression, Your Grace, that nobody here is asking for a real union with the Roman Catholic Church. It is simply a means of restoration of the Archbishopric of Ohrid. Catholic circles also feel this and therefore have no great confidence in the people with whom they are negotiating. So I do not think it is too late to actin order to overcome the discontent, which later could be subdued. The Uniate movement is more dangerous in the places where formerly there was a Union because of similar reasons. Kukush comes in the first place, followed by Dojran with sympathy from Strumica, Maleshevo and Voden. The Salonika, Serez, Melnik and Drama villages lag behind them. There is not any powerful stirring of the Uniate propaganda indeed, but where there is smoke there must be fire. The appointment of Bishop Nil is expected for the fire to blaze forth. The Poljanin eparchy will immediately turn into a Union and the Strumica and Voden eparchies will join in, as well as a huge number of villages in Salonika, Drama, Serres and other eparchies. The other Macedonian eparchies will certainly be shattered, too, first the Veles eparchy and then the Skopje one. The Veles eparchy is also dissatisfied with its bishop, Damaskin, while at the same time the citizens of Veles, aroused by a craving for power, believe that they should govern Macedonia in religious matters.

The causes of such a situation in the whole of Macedonia are very obvious. The Macedonian eparchies and towns I have already mentioned are extremely embittered by the serious position of the Church and the people in which they find themselves. The spreading of the idea of restoration of the Archbishopric of Ohrid upon an Uniate basis is also helped by the French and Austrian consuls, who promise full protection before the Turkish authorities and persecution of the Constantinople Patriarchate. The Greeks themselves indirectly help the spreading of the Union in Macedonia, expecting the Exarchate to become weak because of the Union and thus finding allies in the liquidation of the Catholic propaganda in Macedonia. I have concluded this from the talks I had with the Greek consul in Salonika. He was not in the least worried at the danger of the spread of the Union in Macedonia. On the contrary, Greece is seeking support for its economic and national activity in Macedonia. According to the opinion of the Greek consul, the part of the people who will not accept the Union, disillusioned with the Exarchate, will remain under the jurisdiction of the Patriarchate.

In the talks I had it was not by chance that the agents and adherents of the Union mentioned that the "Macedonian question" could only be settled through the Union. In order to make full use of the discontent and bitterness of the people against the Exarchate, they strengthen their accusation against the Exarchate. They speak about the Macedonian question upon a religious basis, but at the same time stir up the old separatist trends among the Macedonians - to create a new ethnic region through the Union - in the spirit of Midhat-Pasha's schemes. As the Roman Catholic agents worked out a cultural and national program for the Union in 1860 for the liberation of the Bulgarian people from the Patriarchate, they now also appear with a specific program for the spiritual and national liberation of the Macedonian eparchies through the Union. The Macedonian activists already widely use the expression the Macedonian movement in their language of communication, by which one should understand independent national and church liberation. I must emphasize strongly, Your Excellency, that this is a factor of an important political character - separatism is being spread starting from a religious basis towards a broader national one.

After the talks I had with Father Petar Dimov I felt that he has slowly retired from being drawn into the Union. Today he has officially renounced the Union and sent a letter to You expressing his loyalty to the Exarchate. I also talked to Father Averkij. He told me that he would also withdraw from the movement if appointments for the Exarchate bishops were issued by the autumn. My attitude towards these two Church dignitaries was moderate and friendly, because any repressive measures could stir up spirits.



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* Македонците во Бугарија Бyrapckиoт xeлcиншkи koмитeт   03.06.02 18:31
. * Re:Nema ni eden MAZ za da komentira ? makedonec   04.06.02 00:33
. * Re:Nema ni eden MAZ za da komentira ? Shtrkot   04.06.02 08:17
. * Re:Nema ni eden MAZ za da komentira ? makedonec   04.06.02 18:35
. * Re:Nema ni eden MAZ za da komentira ? Shtrkot   04.06.02 21:01
. * Re:Nema ni eden MAZ za da komentira ? makedonec   04.06.02 22:05
. * Re:Nema ni eden MAZ za da komentira ? Shtrkot   04.06.02 22:20
. * Re: Ke mu podnesete li....... makedonec   04.06.02 01:40
. * Европа coф. мak.   04.06.02 08:54
. * Re: Европа makedonec   04.06.02 18:33
. * Re: Европа tulsa   04.06.02 19:19
. * Re: Европа makedonec   04.06.02 22:02
. * овой човек coф. мak.   05.06.02 10:15
. * Re: овой човек makedonec   05.06.02 17:11
. * Re: овой човек tulsa   05.06.02 17:35
. * истото coф. мak.   06.06.02 12:21
. * Re: Makedonija na............. makedonec   07.06.02 00:04
. * ние, вие coф. мak.   07.06.02 09:09
. * Re: ние, вие makedonec   07.06.02 21:53
. * Re: ние, вие tulsa   07.06.02 22:01
. * Re: ние, вие Shtrkot   07.06.02 22:24
. * Sepak e Goce vo Skopje. A zasto,G. Dimitrov znae makedonec   07.06.02 23:43
. * Re: Sepak e Goce vo Skopje. A zasto,G. Dimitrov znae Shtrkot   07.06.02 23:49
. * Re: Sepak e Goce vo Skopje. A zasto,G. Dimitrov znae makedonec   08.06.02 00:28
. * Re: Sepak e Goce vo Skopje. A zasto,G. Dimitrov znae Shtrkot   08.06.02 01:59
. * Re: Ova li ti ... makedonec   07.06.02 00:08
. * Re: Kak go predpocitas?Cel ili na casti? Shtrkot   07.06.02 00:40
. * обратното coф. мak.   07.06.02 10:17
. * Amnesty report 2001 Vuche   04.06.02 16:58
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Hilmar Kabas   04.06.02 19:55
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   04.06.02 22:06
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Boвaтa   04.06.02 22:12
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   04.06.02 23:23
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   05.06.02 00:03
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 ThePatriot   07.06.02 01:55
. * Re: INTERESNO NELI ? makedonec   07.06.02 02:09
. * Re: INTERESNO NELI ? Shtrkot   07.06.02 02:28
. * Re: INTERESNO NELI ? makedonec   07.06.02 02:42
. * Re: INTERESNO NELI ? Shtrkot   07.06.02 02:46
. * Re: INTERESNO NELI ? komunist   07.06.02 09:43
. * Re: INTERESNO NELI ? ThePatriot   08.06.02 01:21
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Vuche   05.06.02 13:55
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   05.06.02 16:44
. * Арачиново coф. мak.   05.06.02 17:00
. * Re: Арачиново makedonec   05.06.02 17:05
. * односи coф. мak.   06.06.02 15:50
. * Re: односи i odnosi. makedonec   06.06.02 16:46
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 tulsa   05.06.02 17:07
. * Objasni go ova . makedonec   05.06.02 21:43
. * ili ova. makedonec   05.06.02 21:48
. * Slaveikov dobre gi.. tulsa   05.06.02 23:24
. * Re: Ajde i jas malce da citiram. makedonec   06.06.02 02:29
. * Re: Ajde i jas malce da citiram. tulsa   06.06.02 02:46
. * Re: objasni go. ili ova.   05.06.02 21:52
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Vuche   06.06.02 13:48
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   07.06.02 01:31
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   07.06.02 02:40
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Shtrkot   07.06.02 02:34
. * Re:Eve edno tele..... makedonec   07.06.02 02:45
. * Re:Eve edno tele..... Shtrkot   07.06.02 02:48
. * Re:Eve edno tele..... tulsa   07.06.02 03:48
. * Re:Eve edno tele..... Shtrkot   07.06.02 07:28
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   07.06.02 23:33
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   08.06.02 00:18
. * preporaka do makedonec Jane Sandanski   08.06.02 10:56
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   08.06.02 13:05
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   08.06.02 14:26
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   08.06.02 19:43
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   08.06.02 21:15
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   09.06.02 22:47
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   10.06.02 01:10
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   10.06.02 13:00
. * Между другото, macedonian   10.06.02 13:07
. * Re: Между другото, Jane Sandanski   10.06.02 14:00
. * Re: Между другото, tulsa   10.06.02 16:35
. * Re: Между другото, macedonian   10.06.02 17:14
. * Не бре, будала, BMPO   11.06.02 00:42
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   10.06.02 21:32
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   11.06.02 01:17
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   11.06.02 01:58
. * gi tepaa i gi zatvaraa makedoncite !!! Jane Sananki   11.06.02 03:02
. * Re: gi tepaa i gi zatvaraa makedoncite !!! Shtrkot   11.06.02 09:22
. * Re: gi tepaa i gi zatvaraa makedoncite !!! Jane Sandanski   11.06.02 09:31
. * Ех, Яне coф. мak.   11.06.02 10:27
. * izbrisi go toa mak. od pred sebe. Jane Sandanski   11.06.02 11:38
. * IZVINI STO SI SEMAM ZA SLOBODA.... makedonec   11.06.02 17:48
. * Re: IZVINI STO SI SEMAM ZA SLOBODA.... tulsa   11.06.02 18:27
. * Re: IZVINI STO SI SEMAM ZA SLOBODA.... makedonec   12.06.02 00:12
. * Re: IZVINI STO SI SEMAM ZA SLOBODA.... tulsa   12.06.02 04:12
. * Re: IZVINI STO SI SEMAM ZA SLOBODA.... makedonec   13.06.02 23:24
. * Re: IZVINI STO SI SEMAM ZA SLOBODA.... tulsa   14.06.02 03:30
. * Re: eeeehhhhhh..... makedonec   15.06.02 03:16
. * Re: gi tepaa i gi zatvaraa makedoncite !!! Shtrkot   11.06.02 11:36
. * Re: gi tepaa i gi zatvaraa makedoncite !!! Jane Sandanski   11.06.02 11:46
. * Re: gi tepaa i gi zatvaraa makedoncite !!! tulsa   11.06.02 17:35
. * Re: gi tepaa i gi zatvaraa makedoncite !!! Shtrkot   11.06.02 22:23
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   11.06.02 18:47
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Shtrkot   11.06.02 19:10
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   11.06.02 19:28
. * P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли macedonian   11.06.02 19:31
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли Shtrkot   11.06.02 19:50
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли macedonian   11.06.02 19:55
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли shtrkot   11.06.02 21:37
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли macedonian   11.06.02 22:05
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли Shtrkot   11.06.02 22:12
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли macedonian   11.06.02 22:38
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли ThePatriot   13.06.02 00:42
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли macedonian   13.06.02 02:53
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли ThePatriot   13.06.02 03:26
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли macedonian   13.06.02 16:46
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли ThePatriot   13.06.02 17:05
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли macedonian   13.06.02 17:18
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли ThePatriot   14.06.02 03:49
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли macedonian   14.06.02 13:55
. * Re: P.S. Щърк, а ти помниш ли ThePatriot   14.06.02 17:34
. * Re: OK macedonian   14.06.02 18:37
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   12.06.02 01:00
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   12.06.02 03:17
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Jane Sandanski   13.06.02 02:50
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 ThePatriot   13.06.02 03:04
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   13.06.02 03:11
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 hehe   13.06.02 03:30
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Jane Sandanski   13.06.02 10:04
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 Aл. Makeдoнckи   13.06.02 16:02
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 makedonec   13.06.02 22:07
. * Re: Amnesty report 2001 macedonian   14.06.02 00:51
. * Re: Македонците во Бугарија Vuche   15.06.02 12:22
. * Re: Македонците во Бугарија :-)   14.07.02 00:31
. * Re: Македонците во Бугарија пaтpиoт бr   14.07.02 21:50
. * Dijalogot so ODRODENITE makedonec   23.07.02 00:02
. * Re: Dijalogot so ODRODENITE Bvlgari   18.06.05 01:09
. * Re: Македонците во Бугарија :-))))   29.07.02 00:46
. * Re: Македонците во Бугарија Lavrentiy   17.06.05 15:04
. * Re: Македонците во Бугарија _krez   17.06.05 15:07
. * Re: Македонците во Бугарија Bvlgari   18.06.05 01:12
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