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Тема Britannica:The Bulgars…. originated as a Turkic trнови  
Автор MONGOLOV TATARIN ()
Публикувано31.08.00 12:26



Britannica:The Bulgars…. originated as a Turkic tribe ... ENCYCLOPAEDIA BRITANNICA Bulgar also called BULGARIAN, member of a people known in eastern European history during the Middle Ages. One branch of this people was an ancestor of the modern Bulgarians. The Bulgars probably originated as a Turkic tribe of Central Asia and arrived in the European steppe west of the Volga River with the Huns about AD 370; retreating with the Huns, they resettled about 460 in an arc of country north and east of the Sea of Azov. Hired by the Byzantines in 480 to fight against the Ostrogoths, the Bulgars subsequently became attracted by the wealth of the Byzantine Empire. In the 6th century the Bulgars continually attacked the Danubian provinces of the Byzantine Empire until, in the 560s, they were themselves threatened by the Avars, who were then advancing from Asia into central Europe. The Avars destroyed one Bulgar tribe, but the rest saved themselves by submitting, for two decades, to another horde of Turkic newcomers, most of whom then retreated back into Asia. Unified under a single ruler, Kurt, or Kubrat (reigned c. 605-c. 642), the Bulgars constituted a powerful khanate known to the Byzantines as Great Bulgaria, with the Kuban River as its southern frontier. After Kurt's death his five sons split the people into five hordes. One of these five, remaining on the coast of the Sea of Azov, was absorbed into the new empire of the Khazars; another migrated to central Europe and was merged with the Avars; and another disappeared into service under the Lombards in Italy. Two of the five hordes, however, had longer futures. Kurt's son Bezmer, or Bat-Bayan, avoided the Khazars by leading his horde far to the north, where it eventually occupied an ill-defined country around the confluence of the Volga and Kama rivers. Subdivided there into three groups (probably through mergers with indigenous peoples or with other immigrants), the horde maintained itself in prosperity for some 600 years. These Volga Bulgars formed not so much a state as a seminomadic confederation, but they had two cities, Bulgar and Suvar, which profited as transshipment points in the trade between the fur-selling Ugrians and Russians of the far north and the southern civilizations--Byzantium, the Muslim Caliphate of Baghdad, and Turkistan. The Volga Bulgars were converted to Islam about 922. In 1237 they were made subject to the Mongol Golden Horde, and, though the city of Bulgar flourished for a long time afterward, the people gradually lost their identity and were mingled with the Russians. The fifth product of the breakup of Great Bulgaria was the horde that Kurt's son Asparukh led westward across the Dniester River and then southward across the Danube. There, on the plain between the Danube and the Balkan Mountains, they established the kernel of the so-called first Bulgarian empire--the state from which the modern nation of Bulgaria derives its name. In the 7th century the Danubian region was nominally controlled by the Byzantine Empire, and it was inhabited by Vlachs (ancestors of the modern Romanians) and also very largely by recently arrived Slavs. The conquering Bulgars were soon permeated by Vlach and, even more thoroughly, by Slavic elements. At the same time, their conquests were carrying them deeper into the ambit of Byzantine Christianity. Territorial expansion into Serbia and Macedonia under Krum (khan 803-814) and under Pressian (836-852) was followed by the conversion of the Bulgars to Christianity under Boris I. The new church's liturgy was in the Slavic language as spoken in the Bulgars' Macedonian possessions, and this language, now known as Old Church Slavonic

Тема Britannica:The Bulgars…. originated as a Turkic trнови [re: MONGOLOV TATARIN]  
Автор Onogur Aziatsk ()
Публикувано31.08.00 12:33



The new church's liturgy was in the Slavic language as spoken in the Bulgars' Macedonian possessions, and this language, now known as Old Church Slavonic .... Exctract from upper text

Тема the..Bulgar...squarish...face...high cheek bonesнови [re: MONGOLOV TATARIN]  
Автор and slanting eyes. ()
Публикувано31.08.00 12:40



http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~slupin1/history/hist2.html From these sons would come a lineage of khans that led a people known as the Hunno-Bulgars. The Hunno-Bulgars, sometimes called Ancient Bulgars, proto-Bulgars, or even Turkic Bulgars by various historians were the resultant mix between the Huns and other nomadic horsemen groups. The term ‘Bulgar’ literally comes from the ancient Turkic word ‘bulgha’ which means to mix. Anyways, these other nomadic horsemen groups were mainly composed of the As, also known as the Ossetians, the Eastern Antes which were an Iranian-Slavic blend, the Khazars a mixed Turkic group, and a people known as the Sarmatians, an Iranian group. The Huns were themselves a genetic hybrid between Mongoloid, Altaic (Siberian), and Central Asian Turkic stocks. So one can imagine that the Hunno-Bulgars were a population of a diverse background whereby the typical Bulgar probably had a squarish type of face, with high cheek bones and slanting eyes. Their faces were likely weathered with tanned skin and wrinkles appearing at a lower age than most around the eyes and mouth. The heads were shaved occassionally and sometimes not. Others would wear their black hair in pigtails as was the traditional fashion to keep it out of the wind and weather. So, in any case, the genesis of the Hunno-Bulgars began with Attila’s three sons. At his death in 453A.D., each son took upon himself a portion of Attila’s forces which was in this situation a Hunnic horde. Each Hunnic horde was divided into several clans or ‘ulus’ which were later on called ‘ogus’ by the Hunno-Bulgars. To Ellak, the eldest of the brothers, were given the ulus of a horde called the Sabiri. To Ernak, the youngest, were given the ulus of a horde called the Utiguri and to Dengizik, were given the ulus of a horde called the Kutriguri. Unfortunately though for all of these brothers, the Hunnic age of relative power and prosperity was about to end.

Тема Arno de…нови [re: MONGOLOV TATARIN]  
Автор Damjanica Grueski ()
Публикувано31.08.00 14:53



Znaci Bugarite bili tataro-mongoli, so kosi oci, briceni glavi, zhovlto-crni (ima edin srednovekoven dokument vo tajniot arhiv na Vatikana vo koj sa nareceni "Rainbow Bugarashi", ama za nego znaeme samo jas i ti), so krivi noze, grozni, niski i debeli, namesto zname imale konjska opaska i t.n. i t.n. Se sto ti e na um nailosho i navredlivo Bugarete go imaat… Arno, ama jas nemam videno Bugarin, koj da lici na tataro-mongol. Kako e mozhno tie da sa i taka i vaka? Logicno e ako Bugarite sa takiva, kakvi ti kazuvash i denes vo Bugaria da zhiveat ludi so slanting eyes i high cheek bones. E toa mi objasni. Kakva e ovaa misteria? Odnapred blagodaram! Iskreno tvoj, Tatko ti

Тема Britannica:The Bulgars…. originated as a Turkic trнови [re: MONGOLOV TATARIN]  
Автор Dobrin ()
Публикувано31.08.00 19:13



Bulgar also called BULGARIAN, member of a people known in eastern European history during the Middle Ages. One branch of this people was an ancestor of the modern Bulgarians. The Bulgars probably {!!!!!!!!}originated as a Turkic tribe of Central Asia and arrived in the European steppe west of the Volga River with the Huns about AD 370{ ?????? pak razni dogadki na nashi istorici i to ot naistarite i naludnichavite, niama takova neshto Bulgarite sa bili v kavkaz mnogo predi Hunite, dori i sled kato falsificiraha Armenskite hroniki zaradi godinite koito nikak ne se vrazvaha s predpolagaemoto Huno-Bulgarsko rodstvo pak triabvashe da priznaiat problema zashtoto razselvaneto na Bulgarite kam Armenia se obiasniavashe s predpolagaemoto Hunsko nashestvie - koeto napulno izkljuchva ideta che Bulgarite sa doshli v Evropa zaedno s hunite, ako niakade Bulgarite sa doshli zaedno s Hunite tova e bilo ne v Evropa a v na balkanite i po specialno v Panonia.}; retreating with the Huns, they resettled about 460 {resettled ot kade i kade?}in an arc of country north and east of the Sea of Azov{az shto si mislia che ako e imalo resettlement sled 460 mai na drugo miasto e bilo}. Hired by the Byzantines in 480 to fight against the Ostrogoths, the Bulgars subsequently became attracted by the wealth of the Byzantine Empire. In the 6th century the Bulgars continually attacked the Danubian provinces of the Byzantine {Ami to se vidia savsem jasno na kade e bil tozi resettlement, da ne bi Bulgarite da sa se bili s Gotite v Kavkaz ili na sever ot Cherno more???} Empire until, in the 560s, they were themselves threatened by the Avars, who were then advancing from Asia into central Europe. The Avars destroyed one Bulgar tribe, but the rest saved themselves by submitting, for two decades, to another horde of Turkic newcomers, most of whom then retreated back into Asia. {Aide be retreated, tova pak si e veche napravo nauchna fantastika, avtorite triabva da se ogramotiat poveche. Chetene samo na Bulgarski uchebnici ne varshi rabota osobeno kogato poslednite sa pisani i prepisvani ot psevdo istoricite ni v poslednite niakolko desetiletia.} Unified under a single ruler, Kurt, or Kubrat (reigned c. 605-c. 642), the Bulgars constituted a powerful khanate known to the Byzantines as Great Bulgaria, with the Kuban River as its southern frontier. After Kurt's death his five sons split the people into five hordes. One of these five, remaining on the coast of the Sea of Azov, was absorbed into the new empire of the Khazars; another migrated to central Europe and was merged with the Avars; and another disappeared into service under the Lombards in Italy. Two of the five hordes, however, had longer futures. Kurt's son Bezmer, or Bat-Bayan, avoided the Khazars by leading his horde far to the north, where it eventually occupied an ill-defined country around the confluence of the Volga and Kama rivers. Subdivided there into three groups (probably through mergers with indigenous peoples or with other immigrants), the horde{ ???? kakav rechnik, tova nauchen termin li e????} maintained itself in prosperity!!!!! for some 600 years. These Volga Bulgars formed not so much a state as a seminomadic confederation{?????? aide be prosperiti v seminomadic confederation tia se samozabraviha, da pitame li kak tezi seminomadi sa imali svoe monetosechene mnogo predi 99% ot togavashnite Evropeiski drzhavi, vkljuchitelno i Dunavska Bulgaria???}, but they had two cities, Bulgar and Suvar, which profited as transshipment points in the trade between the fur-selling Ugrians and Russians of the far north and the southern civilizations--Byzantium, the Muslim Caliphate of Baghdad, and Turkistan. The Volga Bulgars were converted to Islam about 922. In 1237 they were made subject to the Mongol Golden Horde, and, though the city of Bulgar flourished for a long time afterward, the people gradually lost their identity and were mingled with the Russians. {HAHAHA lost identity i mingled with the Russians, ami Tatarite be s tjah niamalo li e mingled ili tia avtori ne znaiat koi zhivee sega v tija zemi i kakva identity ima ama nali te sichkite tam v sajuza vse Rusnaci - niama da se zadalbavat ja???} The fifth product of the breakup of Great Bulgaria was the horde that Kurt's son Asparukh{ Ami brat mu Kuber zashto li go propusnaha????} led westward across the Dniester River and then southward across the Danube. There, on the plain between the Danube and the Balkan Mountains, they established the kernel of the so-called first Bulgarian empire--the state from which the modern nation of Bulgaria derives its name. In the 7th century the Danubian region was nominally controlled by the Byzantine Empire, and it was inhabited by Vlachs (ancestors of the modern Romanians) and also very largely by recently arrived Slavs. The conquering Bulgars were soon permeated by Vlach and, even more thoroughly, by Slavic elements. At the same time, their conquests were carrying them deeper into the ambit of Byzantine Christianity. Territorial expansion into Serbia and Macedonia under Krum (khan 803-814) and under Pressian (836-852) was followed by the conversion of the Bulgars to Christianity under Boris I. The new church's liturgy was in the Slavic language as spoken in the Bulgars' Macedonian possessions, and this language, now known as Old Church Slavonic ----known as Old Bulgarian za da badem potochni shtoto Church Slavonik se poiaviava po kasno i to kato variant na Old Bulgarian. A tova za Vlasite tova sigurno sa go vzeli ot niakoi Rumanski uchebnik, nai posle i na tjah im nameriha miasto. ta takav gjuvech stava kogato avtorite na enciklopedii prepisvat ot savsem razlichni nacionalni istoricheski shkoli bez izobshto da si davat smetka za protivorechiata i razlichnite vazgledi. Ei taka v edna i sashta encyklopedia samuil mozhe da se okazhe hem Bulgarski Tsar/v glavata za Bulgaria/ hem makedonski na drugo miasto. Eto po tazi prichina tezi Encyklopedii vinagi sa bili palni s kakvi li ne kuriozi i gluposti.

Тема Xa taka, izkaraj si makata, da ti olekneнови [re: MONGOLOV TATARIN]  
Автор B v l g a r i ()
Публикувано31.08.00 20:57



Kakva ti e poentata i shto sakash da kazhes, btw? Samo faktot deka Bulgari se zaseluvat vo Keramijskoto pole (Bitola-Prilep-Ohrid) i po porechieto na reka Struma i Mesta kaj Pirin.....i argumentot ti se simva do KRUGLA NULA !

Тема Britannica:The Bulgars…. originated as a Turkic trнови [re: MONGOLOV TATARIN]  
Автор palavnik ()
Публикувано31.08.00 21:04



Малоумно лайно маке. Нема по света по тъпо население с комбинация от мания за величие и комплекс за малоценност. Така и така прототипа на държава не успя, така, че учи албански. Като ти го начукат да може да им кажеш мерси на хората.

Тема Britannica:The Bulgars…. originated as a Turkic trнови [re: Dobrin]  
Автор Laci ()
Публикувано01.09.00 02:49



taka de. zatoa mene veruvaj mi bidejki jas ne gi chitam mnogu.

Тема Xa taka, izkaraj si makata, da ti olekneнови [re: B v l g a r i]  
Автор Laci ()
Публикувано01.09.00 02:51



ako e toa fakt togash kade se tie Bugari? gi snema bidejki malku bile.

Тема od iskustvoнови [re: palavnik]  
Автор Laci ()
Публикувано01.09.00 02:55



li kazhuvash? od tamu li doagje mersi? vie edno vreme vikavte spasiba.


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